Theoretically that's true, but for a building under 75', even volunteer 
departments have adequate pumping capacity to make the standpipe work at the 
top-most connections.

Remember that the prescriptive pressures may be inadequate for some FD 
standpipe kits and way more than adequate for others.   If a department uses 
small (1½" or 1¾") hose packs for attack, you might need 125 PSI or more at the 
hose connection to make it work, depending on make/model of nozzle at the tip.  
 If the attack line is 2½" + sections of 2" with a smooth bore nozzle, you 
might only need 55-60 PSI at the hose connection.    It's incumbent on the FD 
to know what their equipment can pump and harmonize their operational 
strategies and equipment to the limits of their capabilities.

We generally talk about zones beyond the capacity to pump in terms of very tall 
buildings.   (Sidebar, this was a REALLY big topic of discussion at the 2nd 
Draft meeting last week.)    So theoretically, an under-resourced brigade or 
department could have very limited pumping capability, but if they're using 
large diameter hose and fixed bore nozzles, it never manifests.   All of this 
adds up to one incredibly important step in the design process; I've been 
harping on it for years and now it's actually codified.   If you are not 
already familiar with the practices and policies of the serving fire department 
in a particular area, consult with them to affirm what pressure they want to 
pump and what pressure they need at the remote hose connection, especially if 
it's outside of the prescriptive design criteria in NFPA 14.


The foregoing is my opinion only and does not represent NFPA or the NFPA 14 
Technical Committee, nor intended to serve as an interpretation of the standard.

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From: Prahl, Craig/GVL <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2022 7:52 AM
To: Brian Harris <[email protected]>; 
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Subject: [Sprinklerforum] Re: Manual Standpipes

Its requirements can't exceed the capabilities of the local fire department 
apparatus.

Craig Prahl | Jacobs | Group Lead/SME - Fire Protection | 
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From: Brian Harris <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2022 10:45 AM
To: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Sprinklerforum] Manual Standpipes

Other than the flow & pressure requirements for the top connections are there 
any limitations (number of stories) for a manual standpipe?

Brian Harris, CET
BVS Systems Inc.
Design Manager
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