Is this wet system installed in a stand alone building or a box within a 
building? We have installed many systems in both situations in which each have 
their own obstacles. In many instances the circulation of the air will resolve 
these issues. There are certain occasions where the HVAC may need to be 
adjusted depending on the type of units, they are using to maintain the 
temperatures. Other considerations maybe how the building is constructed along 
with the roofing material.

Paul D. Kimble
VP Operations
A.S. Barlin Associates, Inc.
[email protected]
(973) 696-6601 Office
(973) 632-8341 Cell

From: John Denhardt <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2023 8:04 PM
To: Discussion list on issues relating to automatic fire sprinklers 
<[email protected]>
Subject: [Sprinklerforum] Re: [EXTERNAL] Water filled Sprinkler Pipe Condensate 
issue

I have personally installed many wet systems in cooler boxes.  As Craig stated, 
once the water in the pipe reaches the temperature of the box, I have never 
seen an issue like this.

I would suggest getting the HVAC contractor and their engineer involved.  
Something sounds off in their system.

John
John August Denhardt, P.E.
Vice-President Engineering and Technical Services
American Fire Sprinkler Association
301-343-1457


On Aug 8, 2023, at 17:15, Kyle.Montgomery 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Is the whole sprinkler system in the cool area?

Or is there a ceiling with drops down to sprinklers into the cooler and the 
branch lines above in the warm area? If that is the case, then it makes sense 
that the drops would be colder than the surrounding air and would have 
condensation issues. I’ve seen this happen, but it’s so dry here (Phoenix) that 
it isn’t as much of an issue.

-Kyle M

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2023 12:51 PM
To: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Sprinklerforum] Water filled Sprinkler Pipe Condensate 
issue

A recently installed wet pipe sprinkler system protecting 25’ high rack storage 
of Class 3 Commodity. The warehouse is kept cool between 40° & 45° F. (aging 
Cheese).
The Sprinkler system is a Grid Pipe with branch line piping installed about 
12”+ down below the roof deck. The pipes sweat profusely to the point that the 
company renting the space is concerned about the cheese getting wet.
The Project Manager keeps calling me for advise to resolve the situation and I 
have no ideas except to suggest he bring in a Mechanical Engineer with 
experience in Coolers. The area in question measures 300’ long x 167’ wide.

Like most areas it has been a hot summer by Vermont standards.

Has any one had issues like this ?

Regards,
G. Tim Stone

G. Tim Stone Consulting, LLC
NICET Level III Engineering Technician
Fire Protection Sprinkler Design
and Consulting Services

   117 Old Stage Rd. - Essex Jct., VT. 05452
                 CELL: (802) 373-0638
             [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>


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