Kyle, As I mentioned, there are several issues with this site I didn’t 
mention. One is approximately 1000 ft of 80 year old, severely tuberculated 8” 
main (estimate C=30) that feeds the site. The first thing is that this needs to 
be replaced. Once that is done, the 825 is very possible.
  

  
CW, I have all of that info. I have been working on this since 2021 and it just 
came back to life after a year away. 825 gpm is the sprinkler demand only. 
There is a raw water supply that would be used for hose streams.   
  

  
I hesitate to post many specifics of the project here as what is going on could 
result in litigation.   
  
  
  
Todd G Williams, PE  
Fire Protection Design/Consulting
  
Stonington, CT
  
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> the water supply can’t even provide 600 GPM to the little pump? If that’s the 
> case, there is no workaround other than adding a water tank. You can 
> commission the pump without reaching 150% of the rated capacity, but you have 
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>   Subject:  [External][Sprinklerforum] Multiple undersized pumps.
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> I am working on a project for a facility with several small and medium sized 
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> The facility has a very bad water supply and a new building was constructed, 
> complete with fire pump, to meet a demand of 825 gpm. Also on this site is a 
> fire pump house with a 400 gpm at 75 psi pump that takes suction from the 
> main. I was told this pump only feeds a dedicated main to 3 buildings. 
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> underground feeding the entire site, including the new building. Now I have a 
> main fed by a pump with a maximum flow of 600 gpm feeding a 750 gpm pump. Is 
> there any way to get this to work? There is no by-pass around the 400 gpm 
> pump. Not sure if that would make a difference. I would appreciate input from 
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