OK just remember there are two, different things happening:

1.  One major software task is "matching" or "clearing" your
own charges and credits, with the payments that have already
been received (or paid) to settle them.  You should not be using
software that doesn't automate this job at least partially, by
marking items cleared at time of creation of a payment batch,
for example.  Huge developer resources have been invested in
these essentially internal "playpen" activities, making manual
processes more pleasant.

2.  Another major task is the whole area of account reconciliation.
Reconciliation is about the other party, not your own books.
Quicken and other products have had, for many years, various
gimmicks for obtaining bank account listings and identifying
differences with your own accounts.  However, no small business
software has ever been capable of sending or receiving account
listings between debtors and creditors' software to my knowledge.
Products like SQL Ledger that are native internet apps and
not tied down to legacy systems could implement AR/AP exchanges
between debtors and creditors relatively easily, once Dieter made
up his mind to do that.  Some work and thought has gone into
the ARAP submission that is being presented to the OMG
Finance this week.  That's on the ARAP website below.  But,
there is plenty of other pre-existing work to draw from.   In doing
so, SQL Ledger would be the first implementer of standard
AR/AP reconcilation choreography.   This can only happen in
open source since the commercial market cannot allow their
data to escape from lock-in.  Note, this is *not* about privacy,
or about loss of security by sharing your AR data with debtors etc.
We already do that when we send paper Statements, so,
why not send the statement as an XML file ?????????
Sheesh!   Am I frustrated or what!

I want my computer to send or receive account listings with
the trading partner and automatically burn a 2nd attribute on
all the things we agree about: RECONCILED.  (the MATCHED
attribute would already have been burned.)
I want to see a screen showing every item my trading partner's
accounting entries against me, only if they disagree with my books,
and two choices:  CLICK to accept, or CLICK to reject/compose
a message to the trading partner.

Todd
Todd Boyle CPA  9745-128th Ave NE  Kirkland WA
International Accounting Services, LLC  www.gldialtone.com
425-827-3107  AR/AP everywhere  www.arapxml.net



At 05:16 AM 6/26/02, Mark Williamson wrote:
>On Wed, 2002-06-26 at 06:15, Todd Boyle wrote:
> > Most reconciliation differences are business differences and
> > the decision favoring one or the other party cannot be automated.
> > [...]
> > However, the simple identification of those differences is a
> > mechanical matter that should have been automated long
> > ago.  And it would have been automated, but for the
> > irresponsible and bad-faith behavior of the leading accounting
> > software vendors, who placed such a high priority on lock-in
> > of users' data that it was adverse to the interests of their
> > own users.
>
>Hmm those irresponsible and bad-faith accounting softwares is what most
>people are trained in, so I guess the accounting language does modified
>from commercial interests, and yes I agree that those accounting
>softwares vendors do lock-in their users...  well that's why I am here
>looking at SQL-Ledger, and now find out how people are using it, and the
>best methods that we can use to use the software..  and I do believe
>that some people do end up with some good methods in working in, within
>the software design, and they may have found good methods, or bad
>methods of use, and for anyone that is using the software do share your
>methods, as that way other people will share their methods, and we all
>learn.
>
>Cheers
>Mark Williamson
>
>
>
>
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