Dieter
I am an attorney and agree with your views below.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Dieter Simader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I think OpenMfg needs to work out a better license which puts more
emphasize on trust.

I can only say that SQL-Ledger will not take part in any integration
projects with their software. As inviting as it might sound, the license
is much to restrictive.


Dieter Simader http://www.sql-ledger.org (780) 472-8161
DWS Systems Inc. Accounting Software Fax: 478-5281
=========== On a clear disk you can seek forever ===========

On 25 Oct 2002, Matt Benjamin wrote:

>
> Oh, and here are some other restrictions from section four of the "Open"
> MFG license--I particularly like 4.7:
>
> 4. Prohibitions. You are not permitted to do any of the following with
> the Software:
>
> 4.1. Distribute a source code version of the Software containing
> your Contributions;
> 4.2. Distribute your Contributions to any party other than
> OpenMFG;
> 4.3. Distribute or redistribute a compiled binary version of the
> Software in its original or modified form;
> 4.4. Process or permit to be processed any other party=92s data for
> a fee or other consideration;
> 4.5. Use the Software in the operation of a service bureau;
> 4.6. Provide consulting services related to developing,
> installing, implementing, or training for the use, modification, or
> distribution of the Software to any party outside of your business for a
> fee;
> 4.7. Develop or contribute to the development of a software
> application that competes with the Software; or
> 4.8. Charge any fee beyond the costs of data transfer for the
> distribution or redistribution of the Software in accordance with this
> license.=20
> On Fri, 2002-10-25 at 19:18, Matt Benjamin wrote:
> > Ned,
> >=20
> > As I read your license text, it explicitly forbids anyone who makes a
> > code modification from releasing the source for that modification to
> > anyone except your company, at the same time as it mandates that the
> > code be returned to your company. Did I misread the license? If not,
> > it seems like vendor lock-in (to your company) is by no means avoided.=20
> > I hope I did misread it. =20
> >=20
> > Matt
> >=20
> > On Fri, 2002-10-25 at 17:42, Ned Lilly wrote:
> > >=20
> > > Hello all,
> > >=20
> > > Thanks for the kind words. All very accurate points, below. OpenMFG i=
> s =3D
> > > not free, and it's not "open source" according to the OSI definitions. =
> =3D
> > > It is, however, a very sophisticated MRP/ERP application - 400,000+ =3D
> > > lines of Qt/C++ and business logic in the PostgreSQL procedural =3D
> > > language. Our goal in writing our own license was to build something =
> =3D
> > > that would give our partner resellers and consultants not just the =3D
> > > flexibility to work with the code around the edges, but the financial =
> =3D
> > > incentive to make significant contributions to ongoing development as =
> =3D
> > > well. And of course, since we're built on top of Linux/PostgreSQL/Qt, =
> =3D
> > > freedom from vendor lock-in (including us - all customers get source) i=
> s =3D
> > > a big part of our story.
> > >=20
> > > We'd invite anyone with a manufacturing/ERP business focus to come chec=
> k =3D
> > > us out. And since our Standard product interfaces to a third-party =3D
> > > accounting package, we'd love to work with the SL community if there ar=
> e =3D
> > > situations where a mix-and-match might be appropriate for particular =
> =3D
> > > customer needs.
> > >=20
> > > Thanks,
> > >=20
> > > Ned Lilly
> > > OpenMFG, LLC
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > > With regards the "openmfg"=3D20
> > > > Please take note though, that it may be open source, it isn't free. =
> =3D
> > > The
> > > > license is not GPL or one of its derivatives, but their own brew. Tha=
> t
> > > > said, while they keep a tight reign on the software the license is no=
> t
> > > > exactly overly harsh. And after reading their literature, and from my
> > > > own experience the QT base upon which it stands is however, the best
> > > > possible option they could have chosen for performance and
> > > > cross-platform capability. If the rest of the application is as good =
> =3D
> > > as
> > > > they say, it should quickly stand out from the crowd.
> > > >=3D20
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:sql-ledger-users-bounce@;freelists.org] On Behalf Of Finance
> > > > Sent: 24 October 2002 17:55
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: [SL] Re: Fwd: What we would like to see...=3D20
> > > >=3D20
> > > >=3D20
> > > > Holy smoke, just registered, but if this is half of what it promises =
> =3D
> > > to
> > > > be I do not see any reason why people pay millions for SAP and the
> > > > likes! Open source and interface with any other accounting package as
> > > > well, sounds too good to be true.
> > > > Just registered and surely going to look into this. Thanks!
> > > >=3D20
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:sql-ledger-users-bounce@;freelists.org] On Behalf Of Roderick =
> =3D
> > > A. Anderson
> > > > Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 4:14 PM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: [SL] Re: Fwd: What we would like to see...=3D20
> > > >=3D20
> > > >=3D20
> > > >=3D20
> > > > On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Michael Stares wrote:
> > > >=3D20
> > > > > Then someone who wants a manufacturing ERP would install:
> > > > > 1) SL=3D20
> > > > > 2) the manufacturing app (basically enhanced inventory functionalit=
> y
> > > > > and a new works order table + functionality).
> > > > > 3) my proposed MRP Server algorithm to perform PO and WO generation
> > > > > for factories with complex products.
> > > > >=3D20
> > > > > Anyone interested in establishing a project to develop the=3D20
> > > > > manufacturing app (as developers)?
> > > >=3D20
> > > > http://www.openmfg.com/
> > > >=3D20
> > > >=3D20
> > --=20
> >=20
> > Matt Benjamin
> >=20
> > The Linux Box
> > 206 South Fifth Ave. Suite 150
> > Ann Arbor, MI 48104
> >=20
> > tel. 734-761-4689
> > fax. 734-769-8938
> > cel. 734-216-5309
> --=20
>
> Matt Benjamin
>
> The Linux Box
> 206 South Fifth Ave. Suite 150
> Ann Arbor, MI 48104
>
> tel. 734-761-4689
> fax. 734-769-8938
> cel. 734-216-5309
>
>








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