@@Dave:  Thanks for your reply Dave.   Actually SQLServer USED to have
everything I needed right up to SQLServer2000.   Then when they made the
2005 version they wrecked everything for shared hosting.  I'm not sure how
come I'm the only person apparently with this problem, because there must be
millions of SQLServer2005 databases in shared hosting environments. 

I have made such a fuss at Microsoft over it, I have eventually made contact
with one of the developers on that team, and he told me that they had never
thought shared hosting might be a factor they should consider.   To my
astonishment,  they thought every web site with MSSQLServer would be on a
server owned by the web site owner.  Good grief!!

To my dismay, this guy also told me that the feature list for SQLServer2008
had already been frozen and shared hosting customers were left out in the
cold again.   It would be at least 2010 before any features to cater for
shared hosting could be incorporated in the product.

Anyway.. .    by a circuitous route, I found out about the Database
Publishing Wizard, and I'm surprised that in all my fussing and yelling at
MS about this problem, no one there thought to tell me about it.   Anyway I
downloaded it, and it gives me a 85MB long SQLstatement (or series of
statements) that takes an hour to execute.   Means in order ot update the
database, I cant upload the changes,  I have to upload the whole database,
and take the site off line for an hour.    I'm pretty grumpy about that but
it's a step forward, if only a small one. 

I guess what I need to do is migrate away from MS SQLServer but that isn't
something I'm eager to do in a hurry.  There are all kinds of implications
to changing databases.  Not the least of which is a whole host of tests to
ensure the integrity of the data I'm moving and rewriting all my code
generators that write my components. 

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for your input Dave.

@@Manish:   I got into Coldfusion 12 years ago because I was so frustrated
with Perl - I appreciate your suggestion, and I'm sure you're right but I
will cut off an arm with a rusty piece of tin can before I'll look at Perl
again.  <g> 

Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
0422 985 585
Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
AFP Webworks Pty Ltd
http://afpwebworks.com
Full Scale ColdFusion hosting from A$15/month




-----Original Message-----
From: Konopka, Dave [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, 6 January 2009 6:11 AM
To: sql
Subject: SPAM-MED: RE: How do i . Copy a database to a remote server?

Hi Michael,

I'm not sure if someone else has already gotten back to you --

Check out the SQL Server Hosting Toolkit. There's two tools, the one you
want is the Database Publishing Wizard. It will script out all the objects,
permissions, and data from your source database. Then you can take the
script and run it against your destination database.

This is something that's been built into MySQL clients for quite a while
now. It's always annoyed me that SQL Manager tools haven't had anything
similar. But the Database Publishing Wizard has served me well for hosted
databases.

Here's the URL: http://www.codeplex.com/sqlhost

Dave Konopka
http://imakewebjunk.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Kear [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 7:23 PM
To: sql
Subject: RE: How do i . Copy a database to a remote server?

Incidentally, just as an additional comment to my plea ... 

I cant use the copy database wizard, because it's a shared server and I
don't have admin rights.    So I cant create a database on the remote server
using SQLServer management studio.

For the same reason I cant create a backup and then restore it on the other
server..

For the same reason I cant use replication in any way. 

For the same reason, detaching, FTP then attach to the other server is out
as well.


I think Microsoft forgot entirely about the thousands of people using shared
hosting servers when they developed SQLServer2005.   And I'm told there's no
provision for it in the new 2008 version either.   <sigh>

Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
0422 985 585
Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
AFP Webworks Pty Ltd
http://afpwebworks.com
Full Scale ColdFusion hosting from A$15/month








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