On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 01:01:51PM -0400, Michael Bayer wrote: | Im not really sure what "duplicating effort" you have made, perhaps | you could show me some examples....i havent heard anything about the | current userbase having to "duplicate" parts of SA at all
I'm not a current user of SA, but I have lots of code which duplicates some of SA: see my previous post, as my own half-hearted efforts have fallen into the list of deliverables detailed by the SoC proposal. | Under no circumstances can SQLAlchemy's future afford to get mired | down in an esoteric and ruminative PEP construction process; Please excuse my initial post which confounded these issues, this is not what the SoC person has proposed, and I think I was wrong to suggest that the SoC student should have to deal with such stuff. | This is complicated by the fact that SQLAlchemy's SQL construction | facilities are highly tuned at this point and have a lot of subtle | features that are not only difficult to implement, but are also very | critical, for reasons that may not be immediately obvious. Yes! This is exactly the reason why I've been unable to use SA directly in my work. I'm also generating SQL, but under a substantially different mechanism than you have. While you do many of the things that the SoC proposal details, you do it in a way to directly support the automated SQL generation that you're product requires. I'd like to see a low-level API for generating SQL that does not contain assumptions about *how* the SQL is generated, ones that directly match the SQL productions found in the specifications, with no magic. This object system would be "factory" based, so that SA or any other project could provide sub-classes with additional features that represented the needs of you're specific SQL generation process. | But if the PEP-making process is interested in what SQLAlchemy does | and how it does it, then show me what list to sign up on; while I | have a lot of trouble following the typical "PEP-oriented" | discussion, I can certainly offer my thoughts. I'm sure if the SoC proposal is funded, you're kindly feedback will be sought by the student frequently. Kind Regards, Clark ------------------------------------------------------- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 _______________________________________________ Sqlalchemy-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sqlalchemy-users
