while on the same subject, how do i copy one object's relatives to 
another object without loading them all?
 user1.addresses = user2.addreses does not work, it makes them share 
the same InstrList
 user1.addresses = user2.addreses[:] does work, but fires a full query 
(maybe with obj-instantiation)
This is in the case of implicit association, using secondary=table

On Thursday 12 April 2007 18:17:11 Michael Bayer wrote:
> On Apr 12, 2007, at 3:30 AM, Kaali wrote:
> > Thanks for the answers.
> >
> > I implemented message loading with find_members() kind of method,
> > as shown in the documentation link you gave, and it got twice as
> > fast. But it's still nowhere near the speed without the ORM.
>
> i get the impression youre trying to do a partial eager load.  any
> query that you can execute by itself can be fed into the ORM and
> turned into object-mapped results, including the (partial,
> incomplete, whatever) fulfillment of whatever relationships you
> like, using query.instances().   have you looked into that ?
>
>

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