On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 11:37 PM, Jose Galvez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm not trying to be an ass, but what are the advantages to using Elixer
well you did sound like one :) the first thing is that declarative is very new to SA (0.4.something, and only "mainstream" in 0.5), while elixir has been around since SA0.2(?) next elixir is more featurefull than declarative, for instance it provides you the ability to build custom relationships [1] there was a really nice example somewhere but I can't find it, maybe it's on the video. the other nice feature is giving you a more OOP-ish api, with elixir you can almost forget you are storing to tables. last but not least, you have some nice magic that will take care of your tables Also I believe there is some subclassing/inheritance goodies That said I'm not the best person to answer this because I'm not a heavy elixir user, I just wanted to point out it has a purpose, and if it seems to overlap with SA is because something new was develop and not the other way around. In fact declarative is an extension distributed with SA, not a "core feature" and it was added so people (including me) stop complaining about how verbose simple projects where [2], on the other hand elixir is an implementation of Active Record and beyond. [1] http://elixir.ematia.de/apidocs/elixir.relationships.html [2] http://groups.google.com/group/sqlalchemy/browse_thread/thread/817097f376fc808b/2e9ac8e83df54090 > > Gaetan de Menten wrote: >> I am very pleased to announce that version 0.6.1 of Elixir >> (http://elixir.ematia.de) is now available. As always, feedback is >> very welcome, preferably on Elixir mailing list. >> >> This is a minor release featuring some bug fixes (one of them to >> handle a late rename in SQLAlchemy's 0.5 beta cycle), a new, slighty >> nicer, syntax for providing custom arguments to the column(s) needed >> for ManyToOne relationships and some exception messages improvements. >> >> The full list of changes can be seen at: >> http://elixir.ematia.de/trac/browser/elixir/tags/0.6.1/CHANGES >> >> What is Elixir? >> --------------------- >> >> Elixir is a declarative layer on top of the SQLAlchemy library. It is >> a fairly thin wrapper, which provides the ability to create simple >> Python classes that map directly to relational database tables (this >> pattern is often referred to as the Active Record design pattern), >> providing many of the benefits of traditional databases without losing >> the convenience of Python objects. >> >> Elixir is intended to replace the ActiveMapper SQLAlchemy extension, >> and the TurboEntity project but does not intend to replace >> SQLAlchemy's core features, and instead focuses on providing a simpler >> syntax for defining model objects when you do not need the full >> expressiveness of SQLAlchemy's manual mapper definitions. >> >> Mailing list >> ---------------- >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/sqlelixir/about >> >> > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sqlalchemy" group. To post to this group, send email to sqlalchemy@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sqlalchemy?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---