On Dec 8, 2008, at 3:49 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>
> hi
> back to that old question about relation vs query,
> i have some relation, say m2m via table with some additional fields
> like timestamps (which are setup automaticaly).
> so plain relation via secondary join is ok, no really need for
> explicit assoc_object.
>
> by default, the relation will give me all items, regardless of timing.
> now, i want to filter by times. it will be done by some function,
> which will have the timing context and ... what?
> the easiest answer is python-filtering: [x for x in the_relation if
> x.fits.filter ] but that would be very expensive. i dont want that
> relation loaded in full, it's meaningless.
> so, is it possible easy to obtain the query which the relation will
> issue, so i additionaly put .filter() on it and issue it myself? no
> changes to original relation.


sure...  
query 
(A).join(A.bs).filter(B.whatever=='foo').options(contains_eager(A.bs))

or if you want the B's by themselves given an "a"

query(B).with_parent(some_a, "bs").filter(B.whatever=='foo')




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