This has everything to do with the database driver in use and the database 
itself.   Acceptance of a Python timedelta object by the DBAPI and proper 
interpretation of it against the result of a TIMEDIFF call (which is MySQL 
specific) is not a given on most DBAPIs.  For cases like these your best bet is 
to first look at all SQL being emitted, and try to stick to foolproof types 
like ints as far as what you pass to the database.  As for SQLAlchemy, we're 
just passing SQL strings and Python constructs to cursor.execute().

On Nov 18, 2010, at 5:04 AM, Christian Démolis wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I found a usecase that is illogical
> 
> Here is the first code and his result in term. All is False
> 
>         milieu = model.aliased(model.Plage)
>         s2 = model.session.query(
>         milieu,
>         model.func.timediff(milieu.Fin, milieu.Debut),
>         model.func.timediff(milieu.Fin, 
> milieu.Debut)>datetime.timedelta(minutes=self.duree_cible)
>         )
>         for e in s2:
>             print e
>         
> (Plage(589L,'L',datetime.datetime(2010, 11, 16, 8, 0),datetime.datetime(2010, 
> 11, 16, 8, 10)), datetime.timedelta(0, 600), False)
> (Plage(590L,'L',datetime.datetime(2010, 11, 16, 14, 
> 0),datetime.datetime(2010, 11, 16, 16, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), 
> False)
> (Plage(591L,'L',datetime.datetime(2010, 11, 22, 8, 0),datetime.datetime(2010, 
> 11, 22, 10, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), False)
> (Plage(592L,'L',datetime.datetime(2010, 11, 22, 14, 
> 0),datetime.datetime(2010, 11, 22, 16, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), 
> False)
> (Plage(593L,'L',datetime.datetime(2010, 11, 23, 8, 0),datetime.datetime(2010, 
> 11, 23, 10, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), False)
> (Plage(594L,'L',datetime.datetime(2010, 11, 23, 14, 
> 0),datetime.datetime(2010, 11, 23, 16, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), 
> False)
> (Plage(595L,'L',datetime.datetime(2010, 11, 29, 8, 0),datetime.datetime(2010, 
> 11, 29, 10, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), False)
> (Plage(596L,'L',datetime.datetime(2010, 11, 29, 14, 
> 0),datetime.datetime(2010, 11, 29, 16, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), 
> False)
> (Plage(597L,'L',datetime.datetime(2010, 11, 30, 8, 0),datetime.datetime(2010, 
> 11, 30, 10, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), False)
> (Plage(598L,'L',datetime.datetime(2010, 11, 30, 14, 
> 0),datetime.datetime(2010, 11, 30, 16, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), 
> False)
> (Plage(599L,'L',datetime.datetime(2010, 12, 6, 8, 0),datetime.datetime(2010, 
> 12, 6, 10, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), False)
> (Plage(600L,'L',datetime.datetime(2010, 12, 6, 14, 0),datetime.datetime(2010, 
> 12, 6, 16, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), False)
> (Plage(601L,'L',datetime.datetime(2010, 12, 7, 8, 0),datetime.datetime(2010, 
> 12, 7, 10, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), False)
> (Plage(602L,'L',datetime.datetime(2010, 12, 7, 14, 0),datetime.datetime(2010, 
> 12, 7, 16, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), False)
> (Plage(603L,'L',datetime.datetime(2010, 12, 13, 8, 0),datetime.datetime(2010, 
> 12, 13, 10, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), False)
> (Plage(604L,'L',datetime.datetime(2010, 12, 13, 14, 
> 0),datetime.datetime(2010, 12, 13, 16, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), 
> False)
> (Plage(605L,'L',datetime.datetime(2010, 12, 14, 8, 0),datetime.datetime(2010, 
> 12, 14, 10, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), False)
> (Plage(606L,'L',datetime.datetime(2010, 12, 14, 14, 
> 0),datetime.datetime(2010, 12, 14, 16, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), 
> False)
> (Plage(607L,'L',datetime.datetime(2010, 12, 20, 8, 0),datetime.datetime(2010, 
> 12, 20, 10, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), False)
> (Plage(608L,'L',datetime.datetime(2010, 12, 20, 14, 
> 0),datetime.datetime(2010, 12, 20, 16, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), 
> False)
> (Plage(609L,'L',datetime.datetime(2010, 12, 21, 8, 0),datetime.datetime(2010, 
> 12, 21, 10, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), False)
> (Plage(610L,'L',datetime.datetime(2010, 12, 21, 14, 
> 0),datetime.datetime(2010, 12, 21, 16, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), 
> False)
> (Plage(611L,'L',datetime.datetime(2010, 12, 27, 8, 0),datetime.datetime(2010, 
> 12, 27, 10, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), False)
> (Plage(612L,'L',datetime.datetime(2010, 12, 27, 14, 
> 0),datetime.datetime(2010, 12, 27, 16, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), 
> False)
> (Plage(613L,'L',datetime.datetime(2010, 12, 28, 8, 0),datetime.datetime(2010, 
> 12, 28, 10, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), False)
> (Plage(614L,'L',datetime.datetime(2010, 12, 28, 14, 
> 0),datetime.datetime(2010, 12, 28, 16, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), 
> False)
> (Plage(615L,'L',datetime.datetime(2011, 1, 3, 8, 0),datetime.datetime(2011, 
> 1, 3, 10, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), False)
> (Plage(616L,'L',datetime.datetime(2011, 1, 3, 14, 0),datetime.datetime(2011, 
> 1, 3, 16, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), False)
> (Plage(617L,'L',datetime.datetime(2011, 1, 4, 8, 0),datetime.datetime(2011, 
> 1, 4, 10, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), False)
> (Plage(618L,'L',datetime.datetime(2011, 1, 4, 14, 0),datetime.datetime(2011, 
> 1, 4, 16, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), False)
> (Plage(619L,'L',datetime.datetime(2011, 1, 10, 8, 0),datetime.datetime(2011, 
> 1, 10, 10, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), False)
> (Plage(620L,'L',datetime.datetime(2011, 1, 10, 14, 0),datetime.datetime(2011, 
> 1, 10, 16, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), False)
> (Plage(621L,'L',datetime.datetime(2011, 1, 11, 8, 0),datetime.datetime(2011, 
> 1, 11, 10, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), False)
> (Plage(622L,'L',datetime.datetime(2011, 1, 11, 14, 0),datetime.datetime(2011, 
> 1, 11, 16, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), False)
> (Plage(623L,'L',datetime.datetime(2011, 1, 17, 8, 0),datetime.datetime(2011, 
> 1, 17, 10, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), False)
> (Plage(624L,'L',datetime.datetime(2011, 1, 17, 14, 0),datetime.datetime(2011, 
> 1, 17, 16, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), False)
> (Plage(625L,'L',datetime.datetime(2011, 1, 18, 8, 0),datetime.datetime(2011, 
> 1, 18, 10, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), False)
> (Plage(626L,'L',datetime.datetime(2011, 1, 18, 14, 0),datetime.datetime(2011, 
> 1, 18, 16, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), False)
> (Plage(627L,'L',datetime.datetime(2011, 1, 24, 8, 0),datetime.datetime(2011, 
> 1, 24, 10, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), False)
> (Plage(628L,'L',datetime.datetime(2011, 1, 24, 14, 0),datetime.datetime(2011, 
> 1, 24, 16, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), False)
> (Plage(629L,'L',datetime.datetime(2011, 1, 25, 8, 0),datetime.datetime(2011, 
> 1, 25, 10, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), False)
> (Plage(630L,'L',datetime.datetime(2011, 1, 25, 14, 0),datetime.datetime(2011, 
> 1, 25, 16, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), False)
> (Plage(631L,'L',datetime.datetime(2011, 1, 31, 8, 0),datetime.datetime(2011, 
> 1, 31, 10, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), False)
> (Plage(632L,'L',datetime.datetime(2011, 1, 31, 14, 0),datetime.datetime(2011, 
> 1, 31, 16, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), False)
> (Plage(633L,'L',datetime.datetime(2011, 2, 1, 8, 0),datetime.datetime(2011, 
> 2, 1, 10, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), False)
> (Plage(634L,'L',datetime.datetime(2011, 2, 1, 14, 0),datetime.datetime(2011, 
> 2, 1, 16, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), False)
> (Plage(635L,'L',datetime.datetime(2010, 11, 16, 9, 
> 20),datetime.datetime(2010, 11, 16, 10, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 2400), 
> False)
> (Plage(636L,'O',datetime.datetime(2010, 11, 16, 8, 
> 10),datetime.datetime(2010, 11, 16, 9, 20)), datetime.timedelta(0, 4200), 
> False)
> 
> 
> 
> Here is the second code and results in term. I just change inequality and it 
> works. 
>         milieu = model.aliased(model.Plage)
>         s2 = model.session.query(
>         milieu,
>         model.func.timediff(milieu.Fin, milieu.Debut),
>         model.func.timediff(milieu.Fin, 
> milieu.Debut)-datetime.timedelta(minutes=self.duree_cible)>0
>         )
>         for e in s2:
>             print e
> 
> 
> (Plage(589L,'L',datetime.datetime(2010, 11, 16, 8, 0),datetime.datetime(2010, 
> 11, 16, 8, 10)), datetime.timedelta(0, 600), False)
> (Plage(590L,'L',datetime.datetime(2010, 11, 16, 14, 
> 0),datetime.datetime(2010, 11, 16, 16, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), True)
> (Plage(591L,'L',datetime.datetime(2010, 11, 22, 8, 0),datetime.datetime(2010, 
> 11, 22, 10, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), True)
> (Plage(592L,'L',datetime.datetime(2010, 11, 22, 14, 
> 0),datetime.datetime(2010, 11, 22, 16, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), True)
> (Plage(593L,'L',datetime.datetime(2010, 11, 23, 8, 0),datetime.datetime(2010, 
> 11, 23, 10, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), True)
> (Plage(594L,'L',datetime.datetime(2010, 11, 23, 14, 
> 0),datetime.datetime(2010, 11, 23, 16, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), True)
> (Plage(595L,'L',datetime.datetime(2010, 11, 29, 8, 0),datetime.datetime(2010, 
> 11, 29, 10, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), True)
> (Plage(596L,'L',datetime.datetime(2010, 11, 29, 14, 
> 0),datetime.datetime(2010, 11, 29, 16, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), True)
> (Plage(597L,'L',datetime.datetime(2010, 11, 30, 8, 0),datetime.datetime(2010, 
> 11, 30, 10, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), True)
> (Plage(598L,'L',datetime.datetime(2010, 11, 30, 14, 
> 0),datetime.datetime(2010, 11, 30, 16, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), True)
> (Plage(599L,'L',datetime.datetime(2010, 12, 6, 8, 0),datetime.datetime(2010, 
> 12, 6, 10, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), True)
> (Plage(600L,'L',datetime.datetime(2010, 12, 6, 14, 0),datetime.datetime(2010, 
> 12, 6, 16, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), True)
> (Plage(601L,'L',datetime.datetime(2010, 12, 7, 8, 0),datetime.datetime(2010, 
> 12, 7, 10, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), True)
> (Plage(602L,'L',datetime.datetime(2010, 12, 7, 14, 0),datetime.datetime(2010, 
> 12, 7, 16, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), True)
> (Plage(603L,'L',datetime.datetime(2010, 12, 13, 8, 0),datetime.datetime(2010, 
> 12, 13, 10, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), True)
> (Plage(604L,'L',datetime.datetime(2010, 12, 13, 14, 
> 0),datetime.datetime(2010, 12, 13, 16, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), True)
> (Plage(605L,'L',datetime.datetime(2010, 12, 14, 8, 0),datetime.datetime(2010, 
> 12, 14, 10, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), True)
> (Plage(606L,'L',datetime.datetime(2010, 12, 14, 14, 
> 0),datetime.datetime(2010, 12, 14, 16, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), True)
> (Plage(607L,'L',datetime.datetime(2010, 12, 20, 8, 0),datetime.datetime(2010, 
> 12, 20, 10, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), True)
> (Plage(608L,'L',datetime.datetime(2010, 12, 20, 14, 
> 0),datetime.datetime(2010, 12, 20, 16, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), True)
> (Plage(609L,'L',datetime.datetime(2010, 12, 21, 8, 0),datetime.datetime(2010, 
> 12, 21, 10, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), True)
> (Plage(610L,'L',datetime.datetime(2010, 12, 21, 14, 
> 0),datetime.datetime(2010, 12, 21, 16, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), True)
> (Plage(611L,'L',datetime.datetime(2010, 12, 27, 8, 0),datetime.datetime(2010, 
> 12, 27, 10, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), True)
> (Plage(612L,'L',datetime.datetime(2010, 12, 27, 14, 
> 0),datetime.datetime(2010, 12, 27, 16, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), True)
> (Plage(613L,'L',datetime.datetime(2010, 12, 28, 8, 0),datetime.datetime(2010, 
> 12, 28, 10, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), True)
> (Plage(614L,'L',datetime.datetime(2010, 12, 28, 14, 
> 0),datetime.datetime(2010, 12, 28, 16, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), True)
> (Plage(615L,'L',datetime.datetime(2011, 1, 3, 8, 0),datetime.datetime(2011, 
> 1, 3, 10, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), True)
> (Plage(616L,'L',datetime.datetime(2011, 1, 3, 14, 0),datetime.datetime(2011, 
> 1, 3, 16, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), True)
> (Plage(617L,'L',datetime.datetime(2011, 1, 4, 8, 0),datetime.datetime(2011, 
> 1, 4, 10, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), True)
> (Plage(618L,'L',datetime.datetime(2011, 1, 4, 14, 0),datetime.datetime(2011, 
> 1, 4, 16, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), True)
> (Plage(619L,'L',datetime.datetime(2011, 1, 10, 8, 0),datetime.datetime(2011, 
> 1, 10, 10, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), True)
> (Plage(620L,'L',datetime.datetime(2011, 1, 10, 14, 0),datetime.datetime(2011, 
> 1, 10, 16, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), True)
> (Plage(621L,'L',datetime.datetime(2011, 1, 11, 8, 0),datetime.datetime(2011, 
> 1, 11, 10, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), True)
> (Plage(622L,'L',datetime.datetime(2011, 1, 11, 14, 0),datetime.datetime(2011, 
> 1, 11, 16, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), True)
> (Plage(623L,'L',datetime.datetime(2011, 1, 17, 8, 0),datetime.datetime(2011, 
> 1, 17, 10, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), True)
> (Plage(624L,'L',datetime.datetime(2011, 1, 17, 14, 0),datetime.datetime(2011, 
> 1, 17, 16, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), True)
> (Plage(625L,'L',datetime.datetime(2011, 1, 18, 8, 0),datetime.datetime(2011, 
> 1, 18, 10, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), True)
> (Plage(626L,'L',datetime.datetime(2011, 1, 18, 14, 0),datetime.datetime(2011, 
> 1, 18, 16, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), True)
> (Plage(627L,'L',datetime.datetime(2011, 1, 24, 8, 0),datetime.datetime(2011, 
> 1, 24, 10, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), True)
> (Plage(628L,'L',datetime.datetime(2011, 1, 24, 14, 0),datetime.datetime(2011, 
> 1, 24, 16, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), True)
> (Plage(629L,'L',datetime.datetime(2011, 1, 25, 8, 0),datetime.datetime(2011, 
> 1, 25, 10, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), True)
> (Plage(630L,'L',datetime.datetime(2011, 1, 25, 14, 0),datetime.datetime(2011, 
> 1, 25, 16, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), True)
> (Plage(631L,'L',datetime.datetime(2011, 1, 31, 8, 0),datetime.datetime(2011, 
> 1, 31, 10, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), True)
> (Plage(632L,'L',datetime.datetime(2011, 1, 31, 14, 0),datetime.datetime(2011, 
> 1, 31, 16, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), True)
> (Plage(633L,'L',datetime.datetime(2011, 2, 1, 8, 0),datetime.datetime(2011, 
> 2, 1, 10, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), True)
> (Plage(634L,'L',datetime.datetime(2011, 2, 1, 14, 0),datetime.datetime(2011, 
> 2, 1, 16, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 7200), True)
> (Plage(635L,'L',datetime.datetime(2010, 11, 16, 9, 
> 20),datetime.datetime(2010, 11, 16, 10, 0)), datetime.timedelta(0, 2400), 
> True)
> (Plage(636L,'O',datetime.datetime(2010, 11, 16, 8, 
> 10),datetime.datetime(2010, 11, 16, 9, 20)), datetime.timedelta(0, 4200), 
> True)
> 
> Is it normal????
> 
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