I actually just did a little bit of reverse course on this in 0.7.   I've moved 
all the accounting into the try/except block so that the flush completes fully 
before the autocommit expires everything.   This is a change to a pattern 
that's been the same way since 0.4 so hoping nothing bad happens when we put 
0.7 out into betas.       


On Feb 7, 2011, at 2:52 PM, Romy Maxwell wrote:

> Are there any downsides to setting expire_on_commit=False when using
> autocommit=True ? In other words, should I expect to see stale data or
> other side effects ?
> 
> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 8:30 AM, Michael Bayer <mike...@zzzcomputing.com> 
> wrote:
>> 
>> On Feb 7, 2011, at 7:42 AM, Romy Maxwell wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey Michael,
>>> 
>>> I didn't wanna revive a really old thread
>>> [http://www.mail-archive.com/sqlalchemy@googlegroups.com/msg16598.html],
>>> so I figured maybe you won't mind the email.
>>> 
>>> I don't understand why, in the thread, using autocommit=True makes the
>>> object unreachable, or what that actually means. I'm assuming it was
>>> referring to the latter part of the code:
>>> 
>>>> o = s.query(T).get(2)
>>>> o.id = 10
>>>> o.description = "Changed"
>>>> s.flush()
>>> 
>>> With autocommit=True, I've always thought flushes created their own
>>> transactions, like so:
>>> 
>>> s.begin()
>>> s.flush()
>>> s.commit()
>>> 
>>> But if that was true, then the commit happens after the flush. How
>>> would the commit expire anything and/or make anything unreachable for
>>> the flush ?
>> 
>> 
>> The commit is expiring because that's what it does when expire_on_commit is 
>> True.    So the flush goes into its post-commit accounting, it in fact has 
>> to reload all the objects, one at a time, so is hugely inefficient and I'm 
>> going to add a big warning for that in 0.7, ticket 2041.
>> 
>> 
>> 

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