Thanks guys, so i got it going with the hint to use an alias.

Here is what i ended up getting to work... BUT*** i am not using the 
engine.execute.... does .all() work.. but its not recommended because im 
not having a problem whats the issue?

Here is what im doing.

q3 = union(q1,q2).cte()

q = q.join(q3, Account.id == q3.c.account_id)

q.all()

Why is q.all() working without a problem?? is it the cte() thats getting 
this working from the orm for me?

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