On 11 Dec 2013, at 16:32, Michael Bayer <mike...@zzzcomputing.com> wrote:

> 
> On Dec 11, 2013, at 8:02 AM, Tim Kersten <t...@io41.com> wrote:
> 
>> The before_delete and after_delete shouldn't make use of the current Session 
>> though, according to 
>> http://docs.sqlalchemy.org/en/rel_0_9/orm/events.html?highlight=after_delete#sqlalchemy.orm.events.MapperEvents.after_delete
>> 
>> Book keeping within the one transaction becomes somewhat difficult when 
>> those are the only places to catch deletes caused by becoming an orphan. Any 
>> suggestions on how one might go about adding book keeping rows with this 
>> information to the Session? i.e. Like in the after_delete so that it picks 
>> up orphan deletes?
> 
> 
> you can make use of the Session within the mapper-level events, you just 
> can’t rely upon any actual changes you make to that Session actually being 
> acted upon within the flush, as the flush plan has already been determined at 
> that point.    In fact logic was added in recent months that will cause the 
> Session to flush again if events have dirtied up the session within the 
> flush, so these warnings are already becoming too strong for what the current 
> reality is - I would like to dial them back a bit, although this would 
> require nailing down exactly what cases still won’t work as expected.
> 

Excellent, thanks.

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