GENERALLY SPEAKING

if you have relationships declared on the ORM and just want to iterate on 
them, then you don't have to join anything.  

The relationships will just iterate based on the join conditions on the orm.

if you end up joining or filtering , you should read up on contains_eager

http://docs.sqlalchemy.org/en/latest/orm/loading_relationships.html?highlight=contains_eager#relationship-loader-api




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