Thanks. I was comparing Session.remove()  vs. Session().rollback().

So, since I'm not using objects (as in orm), but only use
Session().execute(), it's okay to use .rollback() instead of .remove().
But, it's better to use .remove().

I think it's clear now. Thanks


On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 1:41 PM, Mike Bayer <mike...@zzzcomputing.com>
wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 11:55 AM, Sam Lee <skyn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I'm using scoped_session in a single threaded daemon that has infinite
> loop
> > and sleeps after each iteration.
> > It's only doing queries (does not write to db).
> >
> > I guess unit of work for this daemon is an iteration.
> > From what I'm gathering from documentation, I should create a Session for
> > each unit and close (and remove() in case of scoped_session to
> unregister)
> > when the unit is done.
> >
> >     Session = scoped_session(...)
> >
> >     while True:
> >         try:
> >             Session().execute...
> >         finally:
> >             Session.remove()
> >
> >
> > But, the program is actually doing:
> >
> >     while True:
> >         try:
> >             Session().execute...
> >         finally:
> >             Session().rollback()
> >
> > with no problem. No increasing memory because Session() always returns
> same
> > object (thread local).
> > Only difference I can observe is that Session().rollback() throws
> exception
> > when database is unreachable during rollback but Session.remove()
> swallows
> > that exception.
>
> OK not totally clear what your code actually says because your second
> example does not illustrate where this ".remove()" is present.
>
>
> >
> > Even in this type of program, is it better to always call
> Session.remove()
> > and get new Session object for each unit of work?
>
> calling .remove() has the advantage that any error state within the
> Session will definitely be gone.   The Session tries to be recoverable
> from any error scenario if it is fully rolled back, but there could
> still be objects inside of it with problems, hence .close() solves
> that.  Then, in even fewer cases, the Session might still be in a
> broken state (due to undiscovered SQLAlchemy bugs for example), so
> .remove() makes sure those are gone too.
>
> So, not critical to call .close() or .remove() but it gives you extra
> levels of resilience against failure modes that are not well covered.
>   If you are only running session.execute() and not working with
> objects, it probably doesn't make any difference.
>
>
> > I'm trying to see if there's a down side of using same Session for life
> time
> > of application.
> >
> >
> > Thanks.
> > Sam
> >
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