Thanks for the help - I had missed the "copy vs modifying in place" 
difference between hybrid_method and hybrid_property.

I think adding another dragon would be helpful here, probably located in 
http://docs.sqlalchemy.org/en/latest/orm/extensions/hybrid.html#defining-expression-behavior-distinct-from-attribute-behavior.
 
I'm happy to move this thread into a docs issue if that would be helpful.

On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 5:45:05 PM UTC+2, Mike Bayer wrote:
>
> On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 7:55 AM,  <ja...@cryptosense.com <javascript:>> 
> wrote: 
> > Update: I have just found 
> > 
> http://docs.sqlalchemy.org/en/latest/changelog/migration_12.html#hybrid-attributes-support-reuse-among-subclasses-redefinition-of-getter
>  
> > which documents that getters and setters must have the same name as the 
> > original expression. 
> > 
> > Can I just check that it is expected for expressions to have this 
> > requirement? If so, is it worth opening a docs issue to add this to the 
> main 
> > hybrid property docs? 
>
> this is the mechanics of Python, when you say: 
>
> @mything.foobar 
> def _myotherthing(...) 
>
>
> you are assigning to the name "_myotherthing".   Since 
> @hybrid_property now creates a copy when any modifier is called, the 
> original hybrid you have at "mything" was not changed. 
>
> All the documentation examples at 
> http://docs.sqlalchemy.org/en/latest/orm/extensions/hybrid.html 
> indicate using the same method name for each modification.    I can 
> add more dragons to the hybrid docs as well clarifying that this 
> naming scheme is intentional and required, if that helps. 
>
>
>
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