On Wed, Jan 20, 2021, at 5:42 AM, Harry wrote:
> With apologies for resuscitating an old thread, I came across this issue last
> week, a 15-minute hang while an amazon RDS instance was doing a failover (we
> are on SQLA 1.3.22). I need to do some more work on repro-ing the issue but:
>
> This post on SO from last month
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/65505031/sqlalchemy-ssl-syscall-timeout-coping-mechanism
> mentions that PGBouncer had a similar issue (linked).
> PGBouncer decided it was to do with low-level TCP settings. they fixed it by
> adjusting the TCP_USER_TIMEOUT setting. that can be done on a per-connection
> basis apparently.
>
> Would it be worth investigating and adding to SQLA?
hey there -
all libpq parameters may be passed in the URL or connect args already, so just
pass it in!
from sqlalchemy import create_engine
e =
create_engine("postgresql+psycopg2://scott:tiger@localhost/test?tcp_user_timeout=30")
c = e.connect()
print(c.connection.connection)
output, there it is:
<connection object at 0x7f7b8dee0af0; dsn: 'user=scott password=xxx dbname=test
host=localhost tcp_user_timeout=30', closed: 0>
>
> hp
>
> On Monday, 8 February 2016 at 00:47:40 UTC Josh wrote:
>> Forgot to send an update myself. We actually figured it out: I found that it
>> was due to SQLA not properly detecting a failed connection - we get "SSL
>> SYSCALL error" and the connection pool doesn't reopen + stays borked. Looks
>> like SQLA has a few hard-coded string checks that it looks for and SSL
>> SYCALL was a newer one.
>>
>> 0.9.5 and 0.9.8 fixed a bunch of related issues:
>> 0.9.5: Added a new "disconnect" message connection has been closed
>> unexpectedly"
>> 0.9.5: The psycopg2 .closed accessor is now consulted when determining
>> if an
>> exception is a "disconnect" error
>> 0.9.8: A revisit to this issue first patched in 0.9.5, apparently
>> psycopg2’s
>> .closed accessor is not as reliable as we assumed, so we have added an
>> explicit
>> check for the exception messages "SSL SYSCALL error: Bad file
>> descriptor" and
>> "SSL SYSCALL error: EOF detected" when detecting an is-disconnect
>> scenario
>>
>> So upgrade to 0.9.8+ solved our issues. When a failover happens:
>>
>> 1) primary stops accepting requests, triggers SSL SYSCALL errors
>> 2) connection pool invalidates the connection, opens a new one
>> 3) dns has 5s ttl, so by then it points to new primary (if not, error +
>> repeat)
>> 4) new connection is established, and we've recovered
>>
>> So there's a few errors, which seems like you can solve it using pessimistic
>> disconnect handling, but at this point it seems reasonable enough for us.
>>
>> - Josh
>>
>> On Saturday, February 6, 2016 at 10:22:53 AM UTC-8, Jonas Oscarsson wrote:
>>> Hi Josh,
>>>
>>> Sorry for the late reply.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately we haven't had time/prioritized to look into it further. For
>>> the very few times when we've had to use the failover functionality, it has
>>> recovered quickly enough (within two minutes or so).
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Jonas
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 9:19 PM Joshua Ma <jo...@benchling.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi Jonas,
>>>>
>>>> Just wondering if you were able to characterize the behavior and had any
>>>> ideas for gracefully handling RDS failover. From what I'm seeing, RDS will
>>>> not cause errors, but will simply hang, so SQLA doesn't hit its
>>>> "optimistic disconnect handling"
>>>> (http://docs.sqlalchemy.org/en/latest/core/pooling.html#disconnect-handling-optimistic)
>>>> handler.
>>>>
>>>> Have you found a simple method of identifying failover but not a slow
>>>> query? Would be super useful for us and I'm guessing other folks using
>>>> SQLA + RDS. (We're also using Postgres.)
>>>>
>>>> - Josh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, October 18, 2014 at 5:42:32 AM UTC-7, Jonas Oscarsson wrote:
>>>>> Thanks for the tip, we haven't tried that yet although I think we would
>>>>> have the same behavior as it seems to be the next connection after the
>>>>> database is down that hangs (no matter if it's a SELECT 1 or an actual
>>>>> query).
>>>>> On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Jonathan Vanasco <jvan...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Have you tried a Pessimistic Disconnect strategy?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://docs.sqlalchemy.org/en/latest/core/pooling.html#dealing-with-disconnects
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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