Alright, using join_from may have led to clearing a hurdle.  I’m now using:
    query = (
        select(NV.id, func.min(bs_3.build_id))
        .select_from(bs)
        .join(v_2, onclause=(bs.version_id == v_2.id))
        .join_from(bs_2, Br, onclause=(Br.id == bs_2.branch_id))
    )

..and am getting a new error:
sqlalchemy.exc.OperationalError: (MySQLdb.OperationalError) (1140, "In 
aggregated query without GROUP BY, expression #1 of SELECT list contains 
nonaggregated column 'tact_dev.tb_nv.id'; this is incompatible with 
sql_mode=only_full_group_by")

Do I need to aggregate?  Or perhaps change sql_mode?

Thanks!

From: sqlalchemy@googlegroups.com <sqlalchemy@googlegroups.com> on behalf of 
Mike Bayer <mike_not_on_goo...@zzzcomputing.com>
Date: Monday, March 20, 2023 at 5:33 PM
To: noreply-spamdigest via sqlalchemy <sqlalchemy@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [sqlalchemy] Test query seems to spuriously give 
sqlalchemy.exc.OperationalError: (MySQLdb.OperationalError) (1054, "Unknown 
column 'tb_br.id' in 'on clause'")
OK, not really, you want tables in the FROM clause. use either the 
select_from() or join_from() method to do that: https: //docs. sqlalchemy. 
org/en/20/tutorial/data_select. html#explicit-from-clauses-and-joins On Mon, 
Mar 20, 2023, at 5: 16 PM,

OK, not really, you want tables in the FROM clause.  use either the 
select_from() or join_from() method to do that:

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On Mon, Mar 20, 2023, at 5:16 PM, 'Dan Stromberg [External]' via sqlalchemy 
wrote:



I’m getting some pushback internally, from my team lead – he and I both think 
it’s probably too much detail to share.  It’s 43 lines of SQL with multiple 
subqueries.



Would just the simplest parts of the from clause work?



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Date: Monday, March 20, 2023 at 1:11 PM
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Subject: Re: [sqlalchemy] Test query seems to spuriously give 
sqlalchemy.exc.OperationalError: (MySQLdb.OperationalError) (1054, "Unknown 
column 'tb_br.id' in 'on clause'")

what SQL are you going for ? start with that. On Mon, Mar 20, 2023, at 10: 33 
AM, 'Dan Stromberg [External]' via sqlalchemy wrote: That makes sense, but…. 
I’m afraid I don’t know how to add tb_br to the select. I tried: query = ( 
select(NV. id,



what SQL are you going for ?  start with that.



On Mon, Mar 20, 2023, at 10:33 AM, 'Dan Stromberg [External]' via sqlalchemy 
wrote:

That makes sense, but…. I’m afraid I don’t know how to add tb_br to the select.



I tried:

    query = (

        select(NV.id, func.min(bs_3.build_id))

        .select_from(bs, Br)

        .join(v_2, onclause=(bs.version_id == v_2.id))

        .join(bs_2, onclause=(Br.id == bs_2.branch_id))

    )

…which gave:

1054, "Unknown column 'tb_br.id' in 'on clause'"





…and I tried:

    query = (

        select(NV.id, func.min(bs_3.build_id), Br)

        .select_from(bs)

        .join(v_2, onclause=(bs.version_id == v_2.id))

        .join(bs_2, onclause=(Br.id == bs_2.branch_id))

    )

…which also gave:

(1054, "Unknown column 'tb_br.id' in 'on clause'")



I’m guessing I’m missing something simple, but I have no idea what.



Any (further) suggestions?





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Date: Saturday, March 18, 2023 at 8:01 AM
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Subject: Re: [sqlalchemy] Test query seems to spuriously give 
sqlalchemy.exc.OperationalError: (MySQLdb.OperationalError) (1054, "Unknown 
column 'tb_br.id' in 'on clause'")

the query emitted is: SELECT tb_nv. id, min(bs_3. build_id) AS min_1 FROM 
tb_nv, tb_brst AS bs_3, tb_brst AS bs INNER JOIN tb_vers AS v_2 ON bs. 
version_id = v_2. id INNER JOIN tb_brst AS bs_2 ON tb_br. id = bs_2. branch_id 
the error means that your



the query emitted is:



SELECT tb_nv.id, min(bs_3.build_id) AS min_1

FROM tb_nv, tb_brst AS bs_3, tb_brst AS bs

INNER JOIN tb_vers AS v_2 ON bs.version_id = v_2.id

INNER JOIN tb_brst AS bs_2 ON tb_br.id = bs_2.branch_id



the error means that your ON clause refers to a table "tb_br" which is not 
otherwise in the FROM clause: "ON tb_br.id = bs_2.branch_id"



the ON clause can only refer to columns from tables that are being SELECTed 
from, such as:



SELECT tb_nv.id, min(bs_3.build_id) AS min_1

FROM tb_nv, tb_brst AS bs_3, tb_brst AS bs

INNER JOIN tb_vers AS v_2 ON bs.version_id = v_2.id

INNER JOIN tb_br ON tb_br.id = bs_2.branch_id

INNER JOIN tb_brst AS bs_2 ON tb_br.id = bs_2.branch_id



so you'd need to alter your query to include some indication how tb_br is part 
of what's being joined.



On Fri, Mar 17, 2023, at 7:52 PM, 'Dan Stromberg' via sqlalchemy wrote:



Hi people.



I'm having trouble with a test query.



As the subject line says, I'm getting:

sqlalchemy.exc.OperationalError: (MySQLdb.OperationalError) (1054, "Unknown 
column 'tb_br.id' in 'on clause'")



But it seems like tb_br exists, and has an id column - tb_br being an empty 
table, but still, existent:

mysql> show create table tb_br;

+-------+---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+

| Table | Create Table                                                          
                                                                                
  |

+-------+---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+

| tb_br | CREATE TABLE `tb_br` (

  `id` int(11) NOT NULL AUTO_INCREMENT,

  `name` varchar(45) NOT NULL,

  PRIMARY KEY (`id`)

) ENGINE=InnoDB DEFAULT CHARSET=utf8 |

+-------+---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+

1 row in set (0.04 sec)



mysql> select * from tb_br;

Empty set (0.03 sec)



The query, along with sample models, looks like:

#!/usr/bin/env python3



"""

A little test program.



Environment variables:

    DBU  Your database user

    DBP  Your database password

    DBH  Your database host

    IDB  Your initial database

"""



import os

import pprint



from sqlalchemy import create_engine, select

from sqlalchemy.orm import aliased, sessionmaker, declarative_base

from sqlalchemy.sql.expression import func

from flask_sqlalchemy import SQLAlchemy



db = SQLAlchemy()

Base = declarative_base()





class NV(Base):

    __tablename__ = "tb_nv"

    __bind_key__ = "testdb"

    __table_args__ = (

        {

            "mysql_engine": "InnoDB",

            "mysql_charset": "utf8",

            "mysql_collate": "utf8_general_ci",

        },

    )



    id = db.Column("id", db.Integer, primary_key=True, autoincrement=True)

    builds = db.relationship("Bld", primaryjoin="(NV.id == Bld.variant_id)")





class Vers(Base):

    __tablename__ = "tb_vers"

    __bind_key__ = "testdb"

    __table_args__ = (

        {

            "mysql_engine": "InnoDB",

            "mysql_charset": "utf8",

            "mysql_collate": "utf8_general_ci",

        },

    )



    id = db.Column("id", db.Integer, primary_key=True, autoincrement=True)





class St(Base):

    __tablename__ = "tb_brst"

    __bind_key__ = "testdb"

    __table_args__ = ({"mysql_engine": "InnoDB", "mysql_charset": "utf8"},)



    id = db.Column("id", db.Integer, primary_key=True, autoincrement=True)

    version_id = db.Column(

        "version_id",

        db.Integer,

        db.ForeignKey(

            "tb_vers.id",

            name="fk_tb_brst_version_id",

            onupdate="CASCADE",

            ondelete="RESTRICT",

        ),

        nullable=False,

    )

    branch_id = db.Column(

        "branch_id",

        db.Integer,

        db.ForeignKey(

            "tb_br.id",

            name="fk_tb_brst_branch_id",

            onupdate="CASCADE",

            ondelete="RESTRICT",

        ),

        nullable=False,

    )

    build_id = db.Column(

        "build_id",

        db.Integer,

        db.ForeignKey(

            "tb_bld.id",

            name="fk_tb_brst_build_id",

            onupdate="CASCADE",

            ondelete="RESTRICT",

        ),

        nullable=False,

    )



    version = db.relationship(

        "Vers", innerjoin=True, primaryjoin="(St.version_id == Vers.id)"

    )

    branch = db.relationship(

        "Br", innerjoin=True, primaryjoin="(St.branch_id == Br.id)"

    )

    build = db.relationship(

        "Bld", innerjoin=True, primaryjoin="(St.build_id == Bld.id)"

    )





class Br(Base):

    __tablename__ = "tb_br"

    __bind_key__ = "testdb"

    __table_args__ = (

        {

            "mysql_engine": "InnoDB",

            "mysql_charset": "utf8",

            "mysql_collate": "utf8_general_ci",

        },

    )



    id = db.Column("id", db.Integer, primary_key=True, autoincrement=True)

    name = db.Column("name", db.String(45), nullable=False)





class Bld(Base):

    __tablename__ = "tb_bld"

    __bind_key__ = "testdb"

    __table_args__ = (

        {

            "mysql_engine": "InnoDB",

            "mysql_charset": "utf8",

            "mysql_collate": "utf8_general_ci",

        },

    )



    id = db.Column("id", db.Integer, primary_key=True, autoincrement=True)



    name = db.Column("name", db.String(100), nullable=False)



    variant_id = db.Column(

        "variant_id",

        db.Integer,

        db.ForeignKey(

            "tb_nv.id",

            name="fk_tb_bld_variant_id",

            onupdate="CASCADE",

            ondelete="RESTRICT",

        ),

        nullable=False,

    )



    variant = db.relationship("NV")





def display(values):

    """Display values in a decent way."""

    pprint.pprint(values)





def connect():

    """

    Connect to Staging for testing.



    This is based on 
https://medium.com/analytics-vidhya/translating-sql-queries-to-sqlalchemy-orm-a8603085762b<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/medium.com/analytics-vidhya/translating-sql-queries-to-sqlalchemy-orm-a8603085762b__;!!Ci6f514n9QsL8ck!mipJCD36HORYotWmlDnDv1170cjBPHMcqqZMRM98_rQyzBVOXW7Idnb6DeRYSVpe1XEhYulxQ9eExFg78XlivGY89hFAXM-qqlVMnQ$>

    ...and ./game-publishing/services/api/deploy/celery/config/staging-base.j2

    """

    conn_str = "mysql://{}:{}@{}/{}".format(

        os.environ["DBU"],

        os.environ["DBP"],

        os.environ["DBH"],

        os.environ["IDB"],

    )

    engine = create_engine(conn_str)



    # Added 2023-03-17

    Base.metadata.create_all(engine)



    session = sessionmaker(bind=engine)

    sess = session()

    return (engine, sess)





def main():

    """A minimal query that exhibits the problem."""

    (engine, session) = connect()



    Base.metadata.create_all(engine)



    v_2 = aliased(Vers, name="v_2")

    bs = aliased(St, name="bs")

    bs_2 = aliased(St, name="bs_2")

    bs_3 = aliased(St, name="bs_3")



    # sqlalchemy.exc.OperationalError: (MySQLdb.OperationalError) (1054, 
"Unknown column 'tb_br.id' in 'on clause'")

    # [SQL: SELECT tb_nv.id, min(bs_3.build_id) AS min_1

    # FROM tb_nv, tb_brst AS bs_3, tb_brst AS bs

    # INNER JOIN tb_vers AS v_2 ON bs.version_id = v_2.id

    # INNER JOIN tb_brst AS bs_2 ON tb_br.id = bs_2.branch_id]

    query = (

        select(NV.id, func.min(bs_3.build_id))

        .select_from(bs)

        .join(v_2, onclause=(bs.version_id == v_2.id))

        .join(bs_2, onclause=(Br.id == bs_2.branch_id))

    )

    result = session.execute(query)



    display(result.scalar().all())





main()





I'm using:

$ python3 -m pip list -v | grep -i sqlalchemy

Flask-SQLAlchemy 2.5.1 
/data/home/dstromberg/.local/lib/python3.10/site-packages pip SQLAlchemy 1.4.36 
/data/home/dstromberg/.local/lib/python3.10/site-packages pip $ python3 -m pip 
list -v | grep -i mysql mysqlclient 2.1.1 
/data/home/dstromberg/.local/lib/python3.10/site-packages pip PyMySQL 0.8.0 
/data/home/dstromberg/.local/lib/python3.10/site-packages pip bash-4.2# mysql 
--version mysql Ver 14.14 Distrib 5.7.41, for Linux (x86_64) using EditLine 
wrapper





Any hints?



Thanks!





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