That's what I was implying by my question. 

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: John Stanton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Gesendet: Freitag, 13. April 2007 20:56
An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Betreff: Re: [sqlite] Still getting "Insertion failed because database is
full." errors

Regular flash memory has a limited number of write cycles before it fails.
Are you hitting this problem by using it for general processing?

Joel Cochran wrote:
> First, to answer John's question: the CF Card is a 1GB card, and the 
> only thing on the card is the SQLite Database (currently 509KB), so I 
> really don't think it is a space problem.  Unless you mean something 
> else by Flash memory?
> 
> Michael,
> 
> Yes, I am doing Selects, and using DataAdapters to fill DataTables 
> (which are then used to populate instances of objects).
> 
> Interesting question about the CF Card.  I have 2 devices right now, 
> one in house for development and one in the field for testing, so I 
> suppose it could be the memory card's problem.  But if it was bad 
> sector space, wouldn't it happen on the same record every time?  As it 
> is, the problem occurs sporadically and unpredictably.  I used the 
> field device here in the office and opened over a hundred records with 
> no error (hence my thinking I had fixed the problem).  The field 
> tester took the device to the field and the first record threw the error.
> 
> And I'm still hung up on why it reports an insertion error when there 
> is no insertion occurring (unless it is some sort of internal 
> mechanism used by the database itself).
> 
> For Mike's last question, and I hope this doesn't sound too 
> newbie-ish, but do you run Select statements in a Transaction?  The 
> short ansewr is no, they are not.  And actually, now that I think 
> about it, I don't think any of the updates/inserts on the device 
> itself are either.  The software that creates the database runs on a 
> PC, and I know all those are in transactions, but on the device I do 
> not think they are.  (This program was originally written for 
> SqlServerCE and was recently converted to SQLite).  Could that have 
> anything to do with it?  Could these database changes build up over 
> time or something like that?  I admit I am not very knowledgeable 
> about Transactions.  I will gladly go and put all the updates into 
> transactions, but would I do the same for Select statements?
> 
> Thanks for the responses,
> 
> Joel
> 
> On 4/13/07, Michael Ruck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Is this the only device seeing this error or are *all* devices seeing 
>> this error? Have you checked the CF card? May be its just the card, 
>> which is corrupt and you're hitting these bugs at points, where the 
>> file system is hitting a bad sector.
>>
>> Is this running in a transaction?
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: Joel Cochran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Gesendet: Freitag, 13. April 2007 17:46
>> An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Betreff: [sqlite] Still getting "Insertion failed because database is 
>> full."
>> errors
>>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> I had sent this message out a couple of weeks ago, and I am still 
>> searching for a solution.  I looked at the application design and 
>> made a modest
>> change: I now create a single SQLiteConnection and use it from start 
>> to finish of the application.  Previously I was creating multiple 
>> connections (and disconnecting, disposing them and then running GC), 
>> but all that has been replaced with the single connection approach.
>>
>> At first I thought this had solved the problem, because all in house 
>> testing runs beautifully.  However, as soon as the device is sent to 
>> the field, the error starts again.  Unfortunately, it means that I 
>> have never been able to catch this in debug.  I did, however, change 
>> the error reporting a little and got some more information.  The 
>> SQLiteException I am not getting includes this information:
>>
>> Insertion failed because the database is full database or disk is 
>> full
>>
>> at System.Data.SQLite.SQLite3.Reset()
>> at System.Data.SQLite.SQLite3.Step()
>> at System.Data.SQLite.SQLiteDataReader.NextResult()
>> at System.Data.SQLite.SQLiteDataReader.ctor()
>> at System.Data.SQLite.SQLiteCommand.ExecuteReader()
>> at System.Data.SQLite.SQLiteCommand.ExecuteDbDataReader()
>> at ... etc etc
>>
>>
>> I downloaded the C source and tried to read through it, but honestly 
>> I am not a C programmer and didn't get very far.
>>
>> Other than a possible bug, the only thing I can think of is that 
>> there is something fundamentally wrong with my architecture.  What I 
>> can't get, is why the message has anything to do with inserting.  
>> While there are several actions in my product that Insert into the 
>> database, the error never occurs at those points.  If I understood 
>> what was being inserted, perhaps I could figure out a soultion.
>>
>> If anyone can help, I'd greatly appreciate it.  The original message 
>> is included below this one.
>>
>> TIA,
>>
>> Joel
>>
>>
>> ---------- Original message ---------- Hi all,
>>
>> I have searched the web, the newsgroups, and the archives, but all I 
>> can find is one reference to someone having this trouble with Python 
>> and a bunch of references that list this as predefined error #13 
>> according to http://www.sqlite.org/capi3.html.
>>
>> What I can't find is any help in determining why a program might 
>> receive this error.  The database is only 203KB and has 6 tables 
>> (maybe 1,000 rows in all the tables combined) running off a 1GB 
>> CompactFlash card on a Windows Mobile 5 device with 256MB of onboard 
>> RAM: 50MB of that is dedicated to programs and the rest is storage.  
>> The only app running on the device is the one in question.  The error 
>> occurs at seemingly random times and forces the user to end the 
>> application and start over.
>>
>> At this point I don't know much else: the user is in the field and I 
>> will have the device back late this afternoon for debugging.  I was 
>> hoping to have a head start before I get the device, because as it is 
>> I have no idea what the cause could be.
>> ---------- End Original message ----------
>>
>>
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