On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Howard Chu <[email protected]> wrote: > Scott Robison wrote: > >> A couple of academic thoughts. >> > >> 1. If one wanted to embed the journal within the database, would it be >> adequate to reserve a specific page as the "root" page of the journal, >> then >> allocate the remaining pages as normal (either to the journal or the main >> database)? This does leave the big hole problem so it may still not be >> ideal, but it would give you a known location to find the beginning of the >> journal without doubling the database size or requiring an extra file. >> > > Starting with a known location is definitely a step in the right direction. > > 2. Building on 1, could sparse files be used to accomplish this? Seek to >> "really big constant offset" and do all journaling operations at that >> point, allowing the operating system to manage actual disk allocation? If >> > > We're talking about implementing a filesystem. "the operating system" is > your own code, in this case, you don't get to foist the work off onto > anyone else.
No, Simon's original question was to the effect of why doesn't SQLite just use the already open database file for journaling purposes as well. My point 1 was in response to the need to know where the journal file is, so just pick a dedicated page in the file as the root page of the journal, allowing the two files to be co-mingled. It doesn't address every possible bad reason for co-mingling the data, but it would at least answer the question "how do you find the journal". My second point was about existing SQLite database files that live in a file system managed by some operating system. SQLite already foists that work off on to someone else, this would be no different. It still may be a bad idea, but that's not the reason why it wouldn't work. :) -- Scott Robison _______________________________________________ sqlite-users mailing list [email protected] http://sqlite.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users
