comply to my request or stop, sorry but truth must be told at some point.

On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 6:02 AM, Srikanth Bemineni <
bemineni.srika...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> How can I find this in the statement ?
>
> Will BEGIN immediate get an exclusive lock.? or like Igor specified if I
> call "Delete * from where 0" will it be able to get an immediate lock on
> the table.
>
> Srikanth
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 9:21 PM, mm.w <0xcafef...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > what's the syscall set behind the scene might help, os?
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 6:04 PM, Srikanth Bemineni <
> > bemineni.srika...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Is it possible for any  SQLLite developer to explain the locking
> > mechanism
> > > in case of the shared connections, specifically table level locking,
> how
> > I
> > > can debug this and find out who is holding the lock. ?
> > >
> > > Srikanth Bemineni
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Srikanth Bemineni <
> > > bemineni.srika...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > But in shared cache mode. I assume this is going to be a table level
> > > lock,
> > > > instead of a lock on the whole database. This will really block other
> > > > threads which are dealing with other tables.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > http://www.sqlite.org/sharedcache.html
> > > >
> > > > 2.1 Transaction Level Locking
> > > >
> > > > SQLite connections can open two kinds of transactions, read and write
> > > > transactions. This is not done explicitly, a transaction is
> implicitly
> > a
> > > > read-transaction until it first writes to a database table, at which
> > > point
> > > > it becomes a write-transaction.
> > > >
> > > > At most one connection to a single shared cache may open a write
> > > > transaction at any one time. This may co-exist with any number of
> read
> > > > transactions.
> > > > 2.2 Table Level Locking
> > > >
> > > > When two or more connections use a shared-cache, locks are used to
> > > > serialize concurrent access attempts on a per-table basis. Tables
> > support
> > > > two types of locks, "read-locks" and "write-locks". Locks are granted
> > to
> > > > connections - at any one time, each database connection has either a
> > > > read-lock, write-lock or no lock on each database table.
> > > >
> > > > At any one time, a single table may have any number of active
> > read-locks
> > > > or a single active write lock. To read data a table, a connection
> must
> > > > first obtain a read-lock. To write to a table, a connection must
> > obtain a
> > > > write-lock on that table. If a required table lock cannot be
> obtained,
> > > the
> > > > query fails and SQLITE_LOCKED is returned to the caller.
> > > >
> > > > Once a connection obtains a table lock, it is not released until the
> > > > current transaction (read or write) is concluded.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > As per the above documentation
> > > > "Once a connection obtains a table lock, it is not released until the
> > > > current transaction (read or write) is concluded."
> > > >
> > > > This means once the statement is finalized or the whole transaction
> > > > is committed. Currently I am getting an error on table level locks
> > > >
> > > > Thread 1 SQLITE_LOCKED(6) Error <Table1> is locked
> > > > Thread 2 SQLITE_LOCKED(6) Error database table is locked
> > > >
> > > > Srikanth Bemineni
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Simon Slavin <slav...@bigfraud.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> On 3 Jul 2014, at 6:11pm, Srikanth Bemineni <
> > > bemineni.srika...@gmail.com>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > As per Igor
> > > >> > BEGIN IMMEDIATE should get a write lock on the table 1 when first
> > > select
> > > >> > call is initiated
> > > >> >
> > > >> > 10:00.234 Thread 1 BEGIN
> > > >> > 10:00.235 Thread 1 select * from <table1>
> > > >> > 10:00.234 Thread 1 select * from <table x>
> > > >> > 10:00.456 Thread 1 delete from <table1>
> > > >> > 10:00.500 Thread 1 COMMIT
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Igor
> > > >> >
> > > >> > 1. If there is no second thread , then the above transaction works
> > > fine.
> > > >> > Here also I am doing the select operation first . So the same
> thread
> > > can
> > > >> > update a read lock to write lock ?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > 2. Will BEGIN IMMEDIATE  get a write lock on the table for the
> first
> > > >> select
> > > >> > statement as per the  thread sequence above.
> > > >>
> > > >> You're referring to 'read lock' and 'write lock' but it's easier to
> > > think
> > > >> of there just being a lock.
> > > >>
> > > >> BEGIN IMMEDIATE gets a lock right there at the BEGIN IMMEDIATE
> > command.
> > > >>  It doesn't have to wait for anything later.  Now nothing else can
> > > happen
> > > >> to the database until the COMMIT/ROLLBACK.
> > > >>
> > > >> Simon.
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