Fastnbulbous wrote: 
> I very much appreciate all the help by the way. I use McAfee security
> center. Disabling it did nothing, so still stuck.
> 
> Also, it's interesting to hear the Sonos isn't up to snuff. Aside from
> no longer offering controls, what particular features are missing?

Sonos is fine. I don't mean to demean it. Just not up to Squeezebox/LMS
standards.  Other than the 65,000 file limitation (or less if you use
lots of tagging), which is a problem for me but not most people, I
notice the following:

1. challenging to do random play, and certainly not with the custom
features that some of the LMS plugins add.
2. Won't play > 16/44.1 (and won't automatically transcode on the fly to
play hi-res files).  I don't have that many hires files so this is not a
big issue for me.
3. No podcast app that will allow subscribed podcasts to automatically
populate with the N most recent episodes.
4. Doesn't like many of the tags I use on my flac files.
5. If album art is too large, it won't show it.
6. Awkward, partial implementation of replaygain (and certainly nothing
like LMS "smartgain".
7. Nothing that works for me as a bedside radio (I like my Boom at
bedside. I can control it from the front panel, I can set it to auto
turn off after x minutes with a few presses of a button, etc.  One could
sort of do all this with a sonos but would need to pull out the smart
phone, set a bunch of things, etc.  rather than a couple of presses on
the control panel.
8. Because one can't do plugins and apps, 3rd party developers don't
exist in the Sonos world.  So lots of the cool things LMS has are not
possible.  Consider the BBC streaming method change fiasco of last year.
Smart folks around here figured out a way very quickly to restore
ability to stream BBC channels via a plugin.  It took SONOS many months
to get a fix ready. And I suspect when the DASH method becomes the only
method, it will take SONOS many months to figure that out. Squeezeboxes
already have a fix for that in place due to smart, helpful users.

and I'm probably forgetting a few other things.  None of the above are
deal breakers for the typical streaming music consumer, thus the
popularity of SONOS is not that surprising.  Ultimately it's like
BetaMax vs VHS.  BetaMax was a lot better technology, but VHS won out
and BetaMax died.  Squeezebox was way ahead of its time and still better
than any commercial product for streaming (try using DLNA/UpNP  approach
to streaming and the disaster that "standard" turned out to be.....it's
even worse than going back to a Model-T!).



*Home:* VortexBox 4TB (2.3) > LMS 7.8 > Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio
(all ethernet)
*Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.3) > LMS 7.8 > Touch > Benchmark DAC I, Boom,
Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio)
*Office:* Win8(64) > LMS 7.9 > Squeezelite
*Spares:* Touch(3), Radio(3), Boom, SB3, CONTROLLER
*Controllers:* iPhone6 & iPadAir2 (iPeng8 & Squeezepad), CONTROLLER, or
SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win7(64) laptop
*Files:* ripping: dbpoweramp > FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes;
Streaming: Spotify
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