erland wrote: 
> Which custom tags scanned with Custom Scan plugins are used with your
> menus ? Is it just WORK and MOVEMENT ?
> 
> Do you use all 22 menus or is there some you can live without ?
> 
> 
> 
> Completely agree, that’s why I said that I think customizing Custom
> Browse SQL configuration to use virtual libraries is wasted time. People
> that rely on Custom Browse/Custom Scan need to specify more clearly how
> they use them so it’s possible for someone to implement new
> functionality in LMS core or new third party plugin to offer the
> required functionality. A new plugin for classic music with the most
> important features could make sense, I’m pretty sure there are more
> people interested in this. It can be significantly more hard coded
> compared to Custom Browse/Custom Scan which means less code/work, as
> long as people interested in classical music can agree what’s needed. I
> suspect adding support for classical music is going to be too much work
> to be included in LMS core but possibly some additions could be done in
> the core to make it easier for the plugin developer.
> 
> Using virtual library to separate classical music from all other music
> still makes sense but that does not solve your problem.
> 
> 
> I suspect the library id doesn’t change but Michael or someone else
> need to say for sure. However, I still think your best solution is to
> continue using Multi Library (as long as it works) if you need all these
> menus and instead spend the time to gather people interested in
> classical music and agree on which features that are missing today.
Thanks, agreed.

I have Custom Tags for Work, Movement, Work Artist, SetId (the number on
the LP/CD/etc), Source (CD, LP, DL for Download, etc), Rating, and
Created (date the entry was created in my library).  I also use Mixed
Tags.  The menus mainly use Work, Movement, Work Artist and Rating,
although I have another general one that searches by SetId.

I suspect that the first 5 and one or two others would work with library
views (particularly now we have Additional Browse Modes), but the rest
depend on custom (and mixed) tags.  They are, I think, fairly self
explanatory.  Composers by Artist provides a search by (Track) Artist,
to Composer, to Works, to Movements....  The track rating Works and
Movements are based on 90+ being top rated,  80+ being rated, and 60
being 'to be investigated' (new stuff I haven't got round to enough).
Menus generally allow me to Play All once the likely number of tracks
might be manageable (but that doesn't always work out well!).

I use most of the menus below Browse depending on what I feel like or
what takes my fancy.

I have 28,000+ classical tracks, and 3,200+ others.  Retagging according
to another plan would be really quite difficult.  All my tagging is done
with the help of quite extensive programming in the taggers (puddletag
and Mp3tag).  For instance, Work and Movement are combined to make
title, and also the file name. Sort forms of most tags are created,
taking account of all the usual issues to do with prefixes like 'The'
and so on.  There are additional tags for use with MinimServer so that
it can at least recognise Works (as Groups), acting as a backup to LMS. 
foobar2000 can also make some sense of it all.  

I have to ignore manufacturer's tags because they are so inconsistent. 
I am nerd enough to want Beethoven's Symphony number 9 to always be Work
"Symphony No.9 in Dmi Op.125", and each movement to always have the
exact same name, eg "Symphony No.9 in Dmi Op.125 - 1. Allegro ma non
troppo, un poco maestoso" .  That way I can select that Work by name and
find all performances by each Work Artist.  I also have to change Album
Names to a consistent form so that I can skim through them "Composer -
Work(s) - Work Artist(s)" (clearly that doesn't work for mixed composer
albums, but it helps for others). That's one of the reasons why I keep
the original SetId.  

Looking at Library Views again I'm not sure I can find a way to find
everything that isn't classical.  The problem is that all Classical
tracks also have other genres, so 'not Classical' returns everything.

As I may have said on another thread my listening is becoming limited
due to hearing problems.   I don't know if I could put in the required
effort to specify and/or develop something new.  What we have for the
moment works really, really well.  I would guess that everyone else with
some interest in this sort of thing would have their own ideas and
thousands of tracks already tagged, so getting agreement might be
tricky, to say the least.

I suspect I am an outlier.....

I'd be interested in Michael's views.



LMS 8.1 on PC, Xubuntu 20.04, FLACs 16->24 bit, 44.1->192kbps.  2
Touches & EDO.
LMS plugin UPnP/DLNA Bridge to MF M1 CLiC (A308CR amp & ESLs) & Marantz
CR603 UPnP renderers.  
Also Minimserver & Upplay to same & to upmpdcli/mpd PC renderers.  
Squeezelite to Meridian USB Explorer DAC to PC speakers/headphones.  
Wireless Xubuntu 20.04 laptop firefox/upplay or Android mobile with
Squeeze-Ctrl/BubbleUPnP controls LMS/Minimserver.
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