thanks yuri you have been great guy and still . kind regards
> On Nov 20, 2016, at 2:11 PM, Yuri Voinov <yvoi...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I'm not about it. > There is a difference between help and passengers. Who want to get a turnkey > solution without doing anything. > > Personally, I quite simply as help to specify the direction, or to show that > anything is possible in principle. The rest I do myself. If I do not - then I > buy it. > > At the beginning of the thread I made it - that direction. I think that > should be enough, is not it? > > 20.11.2016 18:07, --Ahmad-- пишет: >> lol …. i hope you don’t spent much time for helping people here on the >> mailing list for free . >> >> thanks again for your time . >> >> >>> On Nov 20, 2016, at 2:03 PM, Yuri Voinov <yvoi...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:yvoi...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Store-ID is not quite cached. This deduplication and this is just what >>> you need for dynamic content, which is the majority of the video. Do not >>> forget about the volume of the video itself. >>> >>> As for the cache, you should look at what video has captions under >>> HTTPS. Modern vanilla SQUID can not in most cases its cache that >>> Store-ID with that without it. Because of video HTTP headers and pragmas. >>> >>> In any case, the complete solution is too complex for the majority of >>> ordinary users Squid and too costly in terms of effort to give it. These >>> solutions can either buy or write yourself, agree? I see no reason to >>> give free solutions, which spent a lot of time - it is not free. >>> >>> 20.11.2016 17:54, --Ahmad-- пишет: >>>> you are correct . >>>> >>>> but video cache solution was very very simple when compared to the store >>>> id . >>>> also it support couple of websites without that much effort . >>>> >>>> what i mean here is the simplicity …..im not in the development level … i >>>> talk about the normal squid users . >>>> >>>> cheers >>>> >>>>> On Nov 20, 2016, at 1:47 PM, Yuri Voinov <yvoi...@gmail.com >>>>> <mailto:yvoi...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> And no need to invent anything. Everything has already been invented. >>>>> And it is called the invention Store-ID. >>>>> >>>>> You take it and write on the basis of all that is needed. I do not see >>>>> any problem. >>>>> >>>>> 20.11.2016 17:45, --Ahmad-- пишет: >>>>>> hey guys . >>>>>> >>>>>> as long as the video cache has been opened now and in past proved its >>>>>> strength with http other websites for video . >>>>>> >>>>>> ((lets put youtube away now .)) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> why don’t we see development on it to support the video contents of >>>>>> websites that support http like daily motion and its sisters websites . >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> and why don’t we use certificates once development for youtube & >>>>>> Facebook ??? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> i saw the development of eleizer of caching windows updates and it was >>>>>> great solution ….. why don’t we combine those 2 solution in 1 product ? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> i think that continuing on the solution of video cache is better than >>>>>> inventing solution from scratch . >>>>>> >>>>>> thanks again squid users Guys >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Nov 20, 2016, at 1:10 AM, Eliezer Croitoru <elie...@ngtech.co.il >>>>>>> <mailto:elie...@ngtech.co.il>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The cachevideos solution is not a fake but as Amos mentioned it might >>>>>>> not have been updated\upgraded to match today state of YouTube and >>>>>>> google videos. >>>>>>> I do not know a thing about this product but they offer a trial period >>>>>>> and they have a forums which can be used to get more details. >>>>>>> I believe they still have something really good in their solution since >>>>>>> it's not based on StoreID but on other concepts. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Eliezer >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---- >>>>>>> Eliezer Croitoru >>>>>>> Linux System Administrator >>>>>>> Mobile: +972-5-28704261 >>>>>>> Email: elie...@ngtech.co.il <mailto:elie...@ngtech.co.il> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: Yuri Voinov [mailto:yvoi...@gmail.com <mailto:yvoi...@gmail.com>] >>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 00:18 >>>>>>> To: Eliezer Croitoru <elie...@ngtech.co.il >>>>>>> <mailto:elie...@ngtech.co.il>>; squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org >>>>>>> <mailto:squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [squid-users] caching videos over https? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 20.11.2016 3:59, Eliezer Croitoru пишет: >>>>>>>> Yuri, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am not the most experienced in life and in security but I can say >>>>>>>> it's possible and I am not selling it.... >>>>>>>> I released the windows update cacher which works in enough places(just >>>>>>>> by seeing how many downloaded it..). >>>>>>>> The first rule I have learned from my mentors is that even if you know >>>>>>>> something it might not fit to be in a form that the general public >>>>>>>> should know about. >>>>>>>> I am looking for a link to CVE related publication rules of thumb so I >>>>>>>> would be able to understand better what should be published and how. >>>>>>>> Any redirections are welcomed.. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A note: >>>>>>>> If you have the plain html of a json which contains the next links you >>>>>>>> would be able to predict couple things... >>>>>>> I know what are you talking about. I came to this idea two years ago. >>>>>>> Unfortunately, I had more important priorities. >>>>>>> But I'm not seen open source solutions uses real YT internals yet and >>>>>>> really works. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Now I'm working on another squid's thing, but plan to return to YT >>>>>>> store-ID helper later. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> However, it is only the fact that the "solutions" that are in the >>>>>>> public domain, or obsolete, or are worthless. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And for some more money and asking. I would understand if they really >>>>>>> worked. Unfortunately, Google does not idiots work. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That's why I said that the development of the Indian - fake. >>>>>>>> If you would be able to catch every single fedora\redhat sqlite db >>>>>>>> file and replace it with a malicious sha256 data you would be able to >>>>>>>> hack each of their clients machine when they will be updated. >>>>>>>> If you believe you can coordinate such a thing you are way above >>>>>>>> StoreID level of understanding networking and Computer Science. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> Eliezer >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ---- >>>>>>>> Eliezer Croitoru >>>>>>>> Linux System Administrator >>>>>>>> Mobile: +972-5-28704261 >>>>>>>> Email: elie...@ngtech.co.il <mailto:elie...@ngtech.co.il> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: Yuri Voinov [mailto:yvoi...@gmail.com <mailto:yvoi...@gmail.com>] >>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 23:08 >>>>>>>> To: Eliezer Croitoru <elie...@ngtech.co.il >>>>>>>> <mailto:elie...@ngtech.co.il>>; >>>>>>>> squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org >>>>>>>> <mailto:squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [squid-users] caching videos over https? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I do not want to waste my and your time and discuss this issue. I know >>>>>>>> what I know, I have seriously studied this issue. None of those who >>>>>>>> are really able to cache Youtube - not only on desktops but also on >>>>>>>> mobile devices - all without exception - is no solution in the form of >>>>>>>> open source or blob will not offer free. This is big money. As for >>>>>>>> Google, and for those who use it. Therefore, I suggest better >>>>>>>> acquainted with the way Youtube counteracts caching and close useless >>>>>>>> discussion. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm not going to shake the air and talk about what I do not and can >>>>>>>> not be. If you have a solution - really works, and for absolutely any >>>>>>>> type of client (Android and iPhone) - show evidence or let's stop >>>>>>>> blah-blah-blah. I mean, if you really were a solution - you'd sold it >>>>>>>> for money. But you do not have it, isn't it? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Personally, I do not want anything. This is not the solution I'm >>>>>>>> looking for. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For myself, I found a workaround; what I know - I have stated in the >>>>>>>> wiki. If someone else wants to spend a year or two for new >>>>>>>> investigations - welcome. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 20.11.2016 2:45, Eliezer Croitoru пишет: >>>>>>>>> Yuri, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Let say I can cache youtube videos, what would I get for this? >>>>>>>>> I mean, what would anyone get from this? >>>>>>>>> Let say I will give you a blob that will work, will you try it? Or >>>>>>>>> would you want only an open source solution? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Eliezer >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ---- >>>>>>>>> Eliezer Croitoru <http://ngtech.co.il/lmgtfy/> >>>>>>>>> <http://ngtech.co.il/lmgtfy/> Linux System >>>>>>>>> Administrator >>>>>>>>> Mobile: +972-5-28704261 >>>>>>>>> Email: elie...@ngtech.co.il <mailto:elie...@ngtech.co.il> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From: squid-users [mailto:squid-users-boun...@lists.squid-cache.org >>>>>>>>> <mailto:squid-users-boun...@lists.squid-cache.org>] >>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Yuri Voinov >>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 17:54 >>>>>>>>> To: squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org >>>>>>>>> <mailto:squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [squid-users] caching videos over https? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> HTTPS is not a problem, if not a problem to install the proxy >>>>>>>>> certificate to the clients. >>>>>>>>> The problem in combating caching YT by Google. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 19.11.2016 21:41, Yuri Voinov пишет: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 19.11.2016 21:35, Amos Jeffries пишет: >>>>>>>>> 19.11.2016 20:56, Bakhtiyor Homidov пишет: >>>>>>>>> thanks, yuri, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> just found https://cachevideos.com/ <https://cachevideos.com/>, what >>>>>>>>> do you think about this? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 20/11/2016 4:17 a.m., Yuri Voinov wrote: >>>>>>>>> This is fake. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Only for strange definitions of "fake". >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It is simply an old helper from before YouTube became all-HTTPS. It >>>>>>>>> should still work okay for any of the video sites that are still >>>>>>>>> using HTTP. >>>>>>>>> YT uses cache-preventing scheme for videos relatively long time >>>>>>>>> (after they finished use Flash videos). So, no one - excluding Google >>>>>>>>> itself >>>>>>>>> - can cache it now. Especially for mobile devices. I've spent last >>>>>>>>> two years to learn this. So, anyone who talk he can cache YT is lies. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As I explain here why: >>>>>>>>> http://wiki.squid-cache.org/ConfigExamples/DynamicContent/YouTube/Dis >>>>>>>>> <http://wiki.squid-cache.org/ConfigExamples/DynamicContent/YouTube/Dis> >>>>>>>>> c >>>>>>>>> ussion >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> All another videos - well, this is a bit difficult - but possible to >>>>>>>>> cache. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you look at the features list it clearly says: >>>>>>>>> "No support for HTTPS (secure HTTP) caching." >>>>>>>>> HTTPS itself in most cases can't be easy cached by vanilla squid. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Amos >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> squid-users mailing list >>>>>>>>> squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org >>>>>>>>> <mailto:squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org> >>>>>>>>> <mailto:squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org> >>>>>>>>> <mailto:squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org> >>>>>>>>> http://lists.squid-cache.org/listinfo/squid-users >>>>>>>>> <http://lists.squid-cache.org/listinfo/squid-users> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Cats - delicious. You just do not know how to cook them. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> squid-users mailing list >>>>>>> squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org >>>>>>> <mailto:squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org> >>>>>>> http://lists.squid-cache.org/listinfo/squid-users >>>>>>> <http://lists.squid-cache.org/listinfo/squid-users> >>>>> -- >>>>> Cats - delicious. You just do not know how to cook them. >>>>> <0x613DEC46.asc> >>> >>> -- >>> Cats - delicious. You just do not know how to cook them. >>> <0x613DEC46.asc> >> > > -- > Cats - delicious. You just do not know how to cook them. > <0x613DEC46.asc>
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