On 11/22/22 21:06, Praveen Ponakanti wrote:

Do we have a recent squid ver 6 snapshot build available for testing?

Sorry, I do not know the exact answer to your question. One can certainly build master/v6 from git sources, of course.


The following config knobs were tried and did not make much of a difference with respect to concurrent outbound TLS sessions across the workers.

I can only speculate that there is a Squid bug that prevents workers from using (or sharing) the TLS session cache OR your traffic patterns do not allow (much) sharing OR your TLS session cache is too small for those traffic patterns. Lot's of possibilities here!


The docs say the default sslproxy_session_cache_size is 2 MB, how high can we go?

I have not tested this, but, bugs notwithstanding, I would expect you to be able to go as high as the maximum shared memory segment size in your environment (e.g., see sysctl kernel.shmax). The entire cache must fit into a single shared memory segment IIRC. It certainly does not hurt to try 100 MB if you already tried 10 MB. Squid should complain if it cannot allocate a segment of the specified size.


Are there any other knobs we can try to improve session reuse for HTTPS reqs ? (without enabling squid cache)

FWIW, I would try to understand _why_ sessions are not shared (enough) in the first place, especially if increasing sslproxy_session_cache_size value does not result in session cache hit ratio increase while there are still many false cache misses. I do not know whether anybody is paying a lot of attention to that cache in production, but the corresponding Squid code is not tested by the Squid Project CI (yet?).

Also, there are different kinds of TLS session reuse. It is possible that the sessions you want to reuse are not supported by the Squid session cache. Unfortunately, I do not remember enough details to tell you more, but one can set up a controlled test and see what is actually going on.


HTH,

Alex.


sslproxy_session_cache_size 10 MB
tls_outgoing_options options=NO_TICKET


    > Agree, it might not make sense to increase the complexity with sharing
    > socket among the workers. Was thinking more on the lines of a hashmap
    > that the coordinator could use to pick workers that already have a TCP
    > connection to the destination being requested, instead of having the
    > workers themselves share connection details.


    Coordinator does not receive/see regular HTTP traffic. If we start
    routing HTTP transactions through that process, it may become the
    bottleneck itself _and_ will introduce additional overheads for passing
    descriptors to workers. From performance point of view, the model with
    one "routing" task doling work to workers works best (and is commonly
    used) in threaded applications, but Squid is not threaded at that level.


     > Most of the TCP connections are for HTTPS reqs, w/o TLS
    termination at
     > the squid. Does squid currently support a TLS session cache ?

    Yes, there is some support for worker-specific TLS session caching,
    with
    directives like sslproxy_session_cache_size, tls_outgoing_options
    options=NO_TICKET (for outgoing sessions IIRC) and https_port
    sslflags=NO_SESSION_REUSE and https_port sslcontext (for incoming
    sessions).


    HTH,

    Alex.


     >     If you are dealing with TLS sessions as well, then we should
    add a
     >     shared memory TLS session cache that all workers can tap into.
     >
     >
     >     Cheers,
     >
     >     Alex.
     >
     >      > On Tue, Jun 21, 2022 at 2:11 PM Alex Rousskov wrote:
     >      >
     >      >     On 6/19/22 12:48, Praveen Ponakanti wrote:
     >      >
     >      >      > What is the process to have this code patch
    upstreamed for
     >     future
     >      >     squid
     >      >      > versions?
     >      >
     >      >     In short, just post a quality pull request on GitHub
    (or find
     >     somebody
     >      >     who can guide your code towards official acceptance
    for you). For
     >      >     details, please see
     > https://wiki.squid-cache.org/MergeProcedure
    <https://wiki.squid-cache.org/MergeProcedure>
     >     <https://wiki.squid-cache.org/MergeProcedure
    <https://wiki.squid-cache.org/MergeProcedure>>
     >      >     <https://wiki.squid-cache.org/MergeProcedure
    <https://wiki.squid-cache.org/MergeProcedure>
     >     <https://wiki.squid-cache.org/MergeProcedure
    <https://wiki.squid-cache.org/MergeProcedure>>>
     >      >
     >      >
     >      >     Thank you,
     >      >
     >      >     Alex.
     >      >
     >      >
     >      >      > On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 9:31 PM Amos Jeffries
     >      >     <squ...@treenet.co.nz <mailto:squ...@treenet.co.nz>
    <mailto:squ...@treenet.co.nz <mailto:squ...@treenet.co.nz>>
     >     <mailto:squ...@treenet.co.nz <mailto:squ...@treenet.co.nz>
    <mailto:squ...@treenet.co.nz <mailto:squ...@treenet.co.nz>>>
     >      >      > wrote:
     >      >      >
     >      >      >     On 20/05/22 19:44, Praveen Ponakanti wrote:
     >      >      >      > Hi Alex,
     >      >      >      >
     >      >      >      > Thanks for going through several steps to
    help mitigate
     >      >     src port
     >      >      >      > exhaustion. We are looking to achieve
    400-500% more
     >      >      >      > concurrent connections if we could :) as
    there is a
     >      >      >     significant buffer
     >      >      >      > on the available CPU.
     >      >      >
     >      >      >     Then you require at least 4, maybe 5, IP
    addresses to
     >     handle
     >      >     that many
     >      >      >     concurrent connections with Squid.
     >      >      >
     >      >      >
     >      >      > We would like to investigate going beyond the
    ephemeral port
     >      >     range for
     >      >      > some specific destination IP:PORT addresses. For
    that it
     >     appears
     >      >     squid
     >      >      > does not round-robin requests if we use multiple
     >      >     tcp_outgoing_addresses.
     >      >      > We could use ACL’s to pick a different outbound IP
    based
     >     on the
     >      >     clients
     >      >      > source IP, however that is not very ideal in our
     >     environment as our
     >      >      > clients aren’t always equally split by subnet.
    However, if
     >     we could
     >      >      > split by the client’s source port that might help
    achieve
     >     this. For
     >      >      > example something like:
     >      >      >
     >      >      >
     >      >      > acl pool1 clientport 0-32768
     >      >      >
     >      >      > acl pool2 clientport 32769-65536
     >      >      >
     >      >      >
     >      >      > tcp_outgoing_address 10.1.0.1 pool1
     >      >      >
     >      >      > tcp_outgoing_address 10.1.0.2 pool2
     >      >      >
     >      >      >
     >      >      > Squid's ACLs currently do not allow filtering by the
     >     client's source
     >      >      > port. We could look into a separate patch to add this
     >      >     functionality to
     >      >      > squid’s ACL code if that makes sense. Or is there a
    better
     >     way to
     >      >      > achieve this?
     >      >      >
     >      >      >
     >      >      > Thanks
     >      >      >
     >      >      > Praveen
     >      >      >
     >      >      >
     >      >      >      > The option to use multiple tcp_outoing_addresses
     >     appears to be
     >      >      >     promising
     >      >      >      > along with some tweaks to the TCP timeouts.
    I guess we
     >      >     could use
     >      >      >     ACLs to
     >      >      >      > pick a different outbound IP based on the
     >     requesting client's
     >      >      >     prefix. We
     >      >      >      > had not considered that option as the ephemeral
     >     ports were
     >      >     no longer
     >      >      >      > available to other applications when squid
    uses most of
     >      >     them with a
     >      >      >      > single outbound IP configured. We are also
    looking to
     >      >     modify the
     >      >      >     code to
     >      >      >      > use the IP_BIND_ADDRESS_NO_PORT sockopt as that
     >     could help
     >      >     delay
     >      >      >     port
     >      >      >      > assignment with the bind() call on the
    outbound TCP
     >      >     sessions (to
     >      >      >      > hopefully allow access to the 4-tuple on the
    socket).
     >      >      >
     >      >      >     Patches welcome.
     >      >      >
     >      >      >     However, please be aware that use of the 4-tuple is
     >     often no
     >      >     different
     >      >      >     from the 3-tuple since the dst-port is
    typically identical
     >      >     for all
     >      >      >     outgoing traffic to a given dst-IP.
     >      >      >
     >      >      >
     >      >      >     Cheers
     >      >      >     Amos


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