Richard Wall wrote:
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Amos Jeffries <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Richard Wall wrote:
Hi,

I've been reading through the archive looking for information about
squid 2.6 and windows update caching. The FAQ mentions problems with
range offsets but it's not really clear which versions of Squid this
applies to.
All versions. The FAQ was the result of my experiments mid last year. With
some tweaks made early his year since Vista came out.
We haven't done a intensive experiments with Vista yet.

Hi Amos,

I'm still investigating Windows Update caching (with 2.6.STABLE17/18)

First of all, I have been doing some tests to try and find out the
problem with Squid and Content-Range requests.
 * I watch the squid logs as a vista box does its automatic updates
and I can see that *some* of its requests use ranges. (so far I have
only seen these when it requests .psf files...some of which seem to be
very large files...so the range request makes sense) See:
http://groups.google.hr/group/microsoft.public.windowsupdate/browse_thread/thread/af5db07dc2db9713

# zcat squid.log.192.168.1.119.2008-10-16.gz | grep
"multipart/byteranges" | awk '{print $7}' | uniq | while read URL; do
echo $URL; wget --spider $URL 2>&1 | grep Length; done
http://www.download.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/software/secu/2008/10/windows6.0-kb956390-x86_2d03c4b14b5bad88510380c14acd2bffc26436a7.psf
Length: 91,225,471 (87M) [application/octet-stream]
http://www.download.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/software/secu/2008/05/windows6.0-kb950762-x86_0cc2989b92bc968e143e1eeae8817f08907fd715.psf
Length: 834,868 (815K) [application/octet-stream]
http://www.download.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/software/secu/2008/03/windows6.0-kb948590-x86_ed27763e42ee2e20e676d9f6aa13f18b84d7bc96.psf
Length: 755,232 (738K) [application/octet-stream]
http://www.download.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/software/crup/2008/09/windows6.0-kb955302-x86_1e40fd3ae8f95723dbd76f837ba096adb25f3829.psf
Length: 7,003,447 (6.7M) [application/octet-stream]
...

 * I have found that curl can make range requests so I've been using
it to test how Squid behaves....and it seems to do the right thing. eg
 - First ask for a range : The correct range is returned X-Cache: MISS
 - Repeat the range request :  The correct range is returned X-Cache: MISS
 - Request the entire file: The entire file is correctly returned X-Cache: MISS
 - Repeat the request: X-Cache: HIT
 - Repeat the previous range request: X-Cache: HIT
 - Request a different range: X-Cache: HIT

curl --range 1000-1002 --header Pragma: -v -x http://127.0.0.1:3128
http://www.download.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/software/secu/2008/05/windows6.0-kb950762-x86_0cc2989b92bc968e143e1eeae8817f08907fd715.psf
/dev/null

Looking back through the archive I find this conversation from 2005:
http://www.squid-cache.org/mail-archive/squid-users/200504/0669.html

...but the behaviour there sounds like a result of setting:
range_offset_limit -1

Seems to me that Squid should do a good job of Windows Update caching.
There is another thread discussing how to override MS update cache
control headers:
http://www.squid-cache.org/mail-archive/squid-users/200508/0596.html

....but I don't see anything evil in the server response headers
today. I guess the client may be sending no-cache headers...I'll
double check that later.

Is there some other case that I'm missing?

As I said. I have not seen Vista in detail. I just had to turn off my old hack to get around the SP1 hanging. (that huge .psf perhapse?)
Never had to do anything with headers.

When I did my testing it was with outdated Win98-WinXP machines (often needing SP1 in XP's case).

The WU on them made an HTTPS request (seems to be auth-related even today) requested one or more update indexes fine. Then proceeded to random-access range requests out of the middle of the update *.cabs using dynamic urls at various update sites. This was causing bandwidth blowout with all the MISS'es when I had several machines a week coming through.

I _think_ but have no confirmation, that the early patch-tuesday releases were done as large single .CAB files and a particular machine may only need updating from individual fixes inside them.

As your test showed, fetching the whole file squid can handle the ranges fine. It's when they are still in MISS state that ranges become trouble.


I'm going to experiment, but if anyone has any positive or
negative experience of Squid and windows update caching, I'd be really
interested to hear from you.

In case Squid cannot do windows update caching by its self, I'm also
looking at integrating Update Accelerator
(http://update-accelerator.advproxy.net/) script with standard squid
2.6 and wondered if anyone else had any experience of this.
The update accelerator script is just a perl wrapper around wget which
is configured as a Squid url_rewrite_program. It's not clear to me
what this script is doing that Squid wouldn't do by its self.
Strange indeed.

I got update accelerator working with Squid but I'm still not
convinced that it's necessary (see above).

-RichardW.


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