Nick,
 
Thank you so much for your support. I am now much confident about 
Negotiate/Kerberos and have just decided to jump into the real thing (as enough 
theory). As far as KVNo i have not experienced it yet(as not practically 
implemented) however i may too in due course and surely will share with you. 
Rather i will share my whole experience. 
 
regards,
 
Bilal
 
 
 
 


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> From: nick.cairncr...@condenast.co.uk
> To: gi...@msn.com; hua...@moeller.plus.com; squid-users@squid-cache.org
> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 10:17:13 +0100
> Subject: Re: [squid-users] Re: Re: SSO with Active Directory-Squid Clients
>
> Bilal,
>
> I'm working on much the same thing, with added Apple Mac just to complicate 
> things. My aim is to create an SSO environment for all my Windows, OSX and 
> nix machines. I want to use Kerberos as my primary authentication as IE7 and 
> FF onwards are moving that way..but for my situation some browsers or 
> applications do not support this and I must also use NTLM. However, Opera on 
> my Macs seems to not like either and prefers Basic.. It's been a struggle to 
> get each element to work but not impossible.
>
> I have found that all Negotiate/Kerberos supporting browsers have worked 
> extremely well with the helper developed by Markus. Many of the 
> authentication breaking elements have disappeared when compared to my Blue 
> Coat and ISA experiences. Those machines joined to the domain using browsers 
> that support Neg/Kerb work seamlessly with Kerberos - FF and IE - and pass 
> through credentials. Mac Safari relies on NTLM and prompts as such. Mac Opera 
> prompts for Basic. Therefore if you're just Windows I would answer fairly 
> confidently that your question 1 answer is Yes.
>
> Users not on the domain would be prompted for credentials. I haven't tested 
> this and depending on which helper you are using (Samba or Squids) and 
> whether you're joined to the domain I believe Negotiate should fall back to 
> NTLM and work providing you supply a valid domain user/pass! So the answer to 
> 2 would be 'depends..' :)
>
> As for the issue of not being to able to use Squid at all and taking into 
> account what I said earlier, then yes there could be a scenario where Squid 
> will not work for your users. However, it is less of a problem in just 
> Windows. It's all about testing your various Windows configurations, apps and 
> browsers until you are sure you have covered the conceivable setups of all 
> your users.
> Finally, I have been struggling against an issue where my KVNO Keytab 
> increments in AD and gets out of sync with the exported version making Squid 
> un-useable until it's regenerated. Have you experienced this? Happy to 
> discuss any of this off list or on.
>
> Cheers,
> Nick
>
>
>
> On 08/04/2010 04:06, "GIGO ." wrote:
>
>
>
> If i select negotiate/Kerberos as authentication protocol for my Squid on 
> Linux and configure no FallBack Authentication.what would be the consequence ?
>
>
>
> 1. Isnt it that all of my users who have logged into Active Directory and 
> where browser is supported will be able to use squid?
>
>
>
> 2. Only those users who will try to use squid from a workgroup giving their 
> domain passoword (domainname/userid) will fail as there will be no fallback 
> aviablable.
>
>
>
> 3. Is there any other scenario in which these users will not be able to use 
> squid?
>
>
>
> I would be really thankful if you guide me further as i am failing to 
> understand why a fallback authentication is necessary if it is. What could be 
> the scenario when windows clients have no valid TGT even if they are login to 
> the domain? I hope you can understand me and help me to clear my self.
>
>
> regards,
>
> Bilal Aslam
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------
>> To: squid-users@squid-cache.org
>> From: hua...@moeller.plus.com
>> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 20:17:20 +0100
>> Subject: Re: [squid-users] Re: Re: SSO with Active Directory-Squid Clients
>>
>> Sorry I knew that but forgot to mention that I was talking about the Unix
>> version.
>>
>> Thank you
>> Markus
>>
>> "Guido Serassio" wrote in message
>> news:58fd293ce494af419a59ef7e597fa4e6400...@hermes.acmeconsulting.loc...
>> Hi Markus,
>>
>>> If you have a Windows client and the proxy send WWW-Proxy-Authorize:
>>> Negotiate the Windows client will try first to get a Kerberos ticket
>> and
>>> if that succeeds sends a Negotiate response with a Kerberos token to
>> the
>>> proxy.
>>> If the Windows client fails to get a Kerberos ticket the client will
>> send
>>> a Negotiate response with a NTLM token to the proxy. Unfortunately
>> there> is yet no squid helper which can handle both a
>> Negotiate/Kerberos response
>>> and a Negotiate/NTLM response (although maybe the samba ntlm helper
>> can).> So there is a fallback when you use Negotiate, but it has some
>> caveats.
>>
>> This is not true when Squid is running on Windows: the Windows native
>> Negotiate Helper can handle both Negotiate/Kerberos and Negotiate/NTLM
>> responses.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>> Guido Serassio
>> Acme Consulting S.r.l.
>> Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
>> VMware Professional Partner
>> Via Lucia Savarino, 1 10098 - Rivoli (TO) - ITALY
>> Tel. : +39.011.9530135 Fax. : +39.011.9781115
>> Email: guido.seras...@acmeconsulting.it
>> WWW: http://www.acmeconsulting.it
>>
>>
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