> It was posted for public testing about two months
> ago with an alpha tag (and actually, I think Tim
> is still calling it Alpha), with the most recent
> update happening just a few days ago.

Time flies when you're having fun!

I have an archived copy of the web page
<http://www.niemueller.de/webmin/modules/squidguard/> that is dated
2001/06/21 and lists the then-current version as 0.86.1 (the initial
release was 0.85.1).

It is also interesting to note that a search of both versions of the web
page (2001/06/21 and 2001/11/05) found no occurrences of any of the
following words: alpha, beta, test, or testing.

Rick


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Joe Cooper
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 7:28 AM
To: Morris Maynard
Cc: Squidguard Mailing List
Subject: Re: squidGuard Module for Webmin


It was posted for public testing about two months ago with an alpha tag
(and actually, I think Tim is still calling it Alpha), with the most
recent update happening just a few days ago.  I think Tim did a great
job in getting a workable module for such a complex tool developed in
such a short time (he worked on it for about 2 months before the first
alpha release).

We thought folks would be interested in it, so we GPLed it...but no one
is forced to use it right now.  You can wait until it suits your needs
better and /then/ start using it.  Or you can write your own.  Or you
can modify Tim's and send him the patches.  Open source is /fabulous/,
isn't it?

We'd all like to have everything perfect right now, but it rarely works
out that way in anything in life.  ;-)

So, enjoy the module.  Or don't.  Help out with it so it becomes what
you want it to be.  Or don't.

Morris Maynard wrote:

> I agree (notwithstanding my other comment) that some module is better
than
> none at all. But how long has this thing been in beta, anyway?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Joe Cooper
> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 12:18 AM
> To: Rick Matthews
> Cc: Squidguard Mailing List
> Subject: Re: squidGuard Module for Webmin
>
>
> Hi Rick,
>
> Have you mentioned any of this to Tim?  (The fellow who wrote it for
us,
> and has been working on enhancements and bugfixes for another company
> recently.  It will see quite a bit more work from Swell pretty soon as
> well, as we will be integrating SquidGuard into our systems soon.)
>
> The module isn't perfect yet, but Tim really does try hard to make it
> work well by the time he calls it 'stable'.  It is still in beta right
> now, so the point is to find these problems and get them fixed--not
> expect it to 'just work' out of the box.  Nonetheless it is the only
GUI
> I know of that will address all of the various aspects of SquidGuard
> administration (adding|removing|viewing the db, setting up the access
> groups and rules, etc.).
>
> Just a thought...
>
> Rick Matthews wrote:
>
>
>>Well, I answered my own question by looking through his cgi scripts in
>></usr/libexec/webmin/squidguard>.
>>
>>The author has made the assumption that your blacklists are in:
>>
>><$dbhome/blacklists/porn>
>><$dbhome/blacklists/ads>
>>etc.
>>
>>This assumption is contrary to the documentation, which says:
>>domainlist filename
>>where: filename is either a path relative to dbhome or an absolute
path
>>(i.e. /full/path) to a database file.
>>
>>So, the following combination works with squidGuard and conforms to
the
>>documentation:
>>dbhome        /usr/local/squidGuard/db
>>domainlist    block/blacklist/porn/domains
>>full path     /usr/local/squidGuard/db/block/blacklist/porn/domains
>>
>>The above combination does not work with the Webmin squidGuard module,
>>however, due to the author's incorrect assumption concerning the path.
>>
>>Since I've been very interested in seeing what the squidGuard module
>>does for you, I made a few changes so that my path declarations would
>>conform to the author's assumptions. After bouncing squid I tried the
>>squidGuard module again.
>>
>>This time the blacklists option opened to show an icon for each of my
>>blacklist categories (porn, ads, etc.) Clicking on the icon apparently
>>causes the module to completely read the blacklist before opening a
page
>>that allows you to search or add to the files. Clicking on <porn>
caused
>>a delay of 20 - 25 seconds before presenting the next screen; clicking
>>on <ads> brought up the next screen in less than a second.
>>
>>I guess the last straw was that in each of the categories, the search
>>page had a red notice at the top that said "This blacklist is
disabled".
>>There is also a link labeled "Enable this blacklist".  I have no idea
>>why the module thinks my blacklists are disabled, but at this point I
>>don't really care.
>>
>>I've uninstalled the squidGuard module for Webmin.

--
Joe Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://www.swelltech.com
Web Caching Appliances and Support


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