Performance hasn't been a problem on the reconfigure.  In practice it
generally doesn't change that often.  These are largely for hundreds of
users or less.  Might well be different for higher user counts.

Jerry

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Matthews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jerry Murdock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 1:22 PM
Subject: RE: SquidGuard & NT Groups


> Nice system!
>
> The fact that you allow it to run the -k reconfigure whenever it is
> required tells me that the reconfigure does not produce an unacceptable
> performance hit.  (Am I reading too much into it?)  I know you must
> be using the .db files?  What can you tell me about the user impact
> of a -k reconfigure on a production system?
>
> Thanks!
> Rick
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jerry Murdock
> > Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 9:24 AM
> > To: Rick Matthews
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: SquidGuard & NT Groups
> >
> >
> > I do a -k reconfigure, but only when the groups actually change, not
with
> > every xx minute update.
> >
> > The flow is basically:
> >
> > enumerate group1
> > compare to existing userlist1 file
> > if != then write new userlist1 and set reconfigure flag
> > repeat for group2, group3, etc
> > if reconfigure flag set then do -k reconfigure
> >
> > Most are set to check every 30 minutes, combined with a Webmin option
to
> > "Update Now" when really necessary.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rick Matthews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Jerry Murdock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 10:09 AM
> > Subject: RE: SquidGuard & NT Groups
> >
> >
> > > > My current method of a cron job enumerating the relevant groups
into a
> > > > squidguard userlist file every x minutes is relatively efficient
and
> > > > simple.  It's not sexy, but it works if you can live with a little
> > > > latency.
> > >
> > > Hey, I like it! :)
> > >
> > > Is it necessary to 'squid -k reconfigure', or does squidGuard
re-read
> > > the userlist files periodically?
> > >
> > > Rick
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jerry
Murdock
> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 7:36 AM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Henrik Nordstrom; Phil Crooker
> > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: SquidGuard & NT Groups
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Squid doesn't really know about groups at all., and never gets a
"list
> > of
> > > > groups" back from the helper.  It only knows the OK/ERR status a
> > generic
> > > > external_acl helper returns based on arbitrary parameters.
> > > >
> > > > Passing a single group on to Squidguard would be limited, I rarely
> > have
> > > > instances where a single group is sufficient.
> > > >
> > > > If this were to be truly useful, there would have to be a
mechanism
> > for
> > > > Squid to enumerate the user's groups and pass the info onto
> > Squidguard.  I
> > > > don't really think squid should be doing this much work "for" a
> > helper.
> > > > Do we want a list of 100 groups going to the helper for every
request?
> > > > Squid could be trained to only pass "relevant" groups, but that is
> > more
> > > > mucking around in squid.
> > > >
> > > > IMO, the most efficient, clean, and flexible method would be for
> > > > squidguard to support some form of external group helper.
> > > >
> > > > My current method of a cron job enumerating the relevant groups
into a
> > > > squidguard userlist file every x minutes is relatively efficient
and
> > > > simple.  It's not sexy, but it works if you can live with a little
> > > > latency.
> > > >
> > > > Jerry
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Jay Turner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: "Henrik Nordstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Phil Crooker"
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 5:20 AM
> > > > Subject: RE: SquidGuard & NT Groups
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Not even via wb_group somehow?
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Henrik Nordstrom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, 6 March 2003 3:38 PM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Phil Crooker
> > > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: Re: SquidGuard & NT Groups
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thursday 06 March 2003 01.42, Jay Turner wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Is there no way squid could be modified to pass group
information
> > > > > > through to the redirector?
> > > > >
> > > > > Not easily. Squid does not actually know the group.
> > > > >
> > > > > What could work is to have Squid tag the request if it matches a
> > > > > certain http_access rule, and have this tag sent to redirectors.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > > Henrik
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >

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