Could you please say what C/R means? Thank you. On Fri, 2004-04-16 at 10:59, Bruce Richardson wrote: > On Mon, Apr 12, 2004 at 06:46:41PM -0700, Rick Castello wrote: > > > Quite simply: much spam now forges genuine e-mail addresses and most > > > spam forges genuine domain names. This means that every challenge that > > > you send out is wasting somebody else's time and adding to the load they > > > already see from spam, viruses and collateral spam > > > (http://www.cam.ac.uk/cs/email/collateral.html). > > > > I would agree with you that *some* spam now forges genuine email > > addresses. I'd agree that nearly *all* spam now forges genuine > > domain names. However, in a highly unscientific survey (on my own > > email box), I'd estimate that only about one percent of the spam > > I see is from a real email address. > > Yes, but there's a huge amount of spam so 1% still represents a lot of > people. You're also ignoring the virus message problem. Almost all > virus e-mails now forge *absolutely genuine* e-mail addresses > > > > There are plenty of good anti-spam tools that don't have any adverse > > > affect on other people. Use them, not this lazy-ass, inconsiderate > > > tool. > > > > Show me a tool that has the same success rate as C/R and I'll > > use it. > > The success rate isn't the issue. The issue is that C/R causes > inconvenience for other people. The other tools do not. You are > cutting down on your spam problem by being antisocial to other people > who have never done you the slightest harm. > > > If the person being spoofed isn't using C/R themselves, then to > > them, my challenge message is likely *one* more piece of spam > > that they deal with. > > Great, so the inconvenience you cause is distributed, with only a small > amount going to any one person or system (assuming that no mailbombing > or joe-jobbing is happening). Now multiply that by the number of people > using C/R. Collectively, you are adding a significant amount of useless > noise and inconvenience to the system. > > > Maybe the solution is for *everyone* to use C/R, rather than > > no one. > > The more people who use C/R, the worse it'll get. -- Joaquim Laureano Lusostar Technologies, LLC 291 Old Deal Road Eatontown, NJ 07724 Phone: 732-413-0363 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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