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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [TRF]LisXit Team
> RaisingFire/Xtreme Team Coders
> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 9:09 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [SM-USERS] (no subject)
> 

[lots of talk about being blacklisted for sending SMTP directly from
dynamic IP's.]

> > >
> > > this is real lame
> > > really, why did sorbs came up with such idea
> >
> > It's actually quite a good idea.  It stops lots of people who would
> > otherwise use dynamically acquired IP addresses (harder to trace,
etc)
> > from spamming the world.  Real world mail servers need to be in a
> reliable
> > place in order to function properly, at least w/out a LOT of
hacking, so
> > it turns out to be a pretty good assumption that incoming
connections
> from
> > servers on dynamic IPs are spambots doing their thing.


> Well not for @home,
> I know that they saves up to 20 last used ip's with the start and end
> date...
> also, if you get a new ip the older ip will still reslove to the
current
> hostname, and this is for about 2 weeks till 1 month
> so @home should not block their own customers
> 
> but here another example, i replyed your message and i got it...
because
> squirrelmail is using the database of sorbs,
> well not that i gonna say that it sucks and you don't have to use it,
> because it's one of the possibilities to eliminate spam
> but people like me, using a mailserver for my own, and some for my
friends
> (trusted ofcourse, not everybody gets a mail address at my domain)
> 
> I'm going to contact @home for delisting me, if not then i will go to
> another
> provider.


The blocks/blacklists on dynamic IP's are entirely appropriate in this
day and age. There is an industry accepted and promoted solution to your
problem and that is to use your ISP's mail server as an outgoing mail
relay. You can either use it via SMTP directly from your applications
(i.e. SM) or as a smarthost for the mail server you are running. Every
ISP I know of worth a grain of salt allows their customers to use the
ISP's mail servers to send mail. That's why they are there. If you do
that I'll be most if not all of your problems go away. If you are an
@home customer, they are almost certainly allowing you to relay SMTP
through them. If you're blocked because you're on a blacklist that they
subscribe to then it's your fault for not doing your research before
setting up your mail server. 

--
Marc




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