Happy New Year everyone.

I haven't solved this problem yet. Although is it not critical, it is a bit annoying.

I have tried to simplify things, and have a reference setup that works.
My linphone sends a TCP call and my Asterisk answers, plays a speak and hangs up.


If I instead sends the call to my PBX, which handles the authentication via UAC, it fails with this error, which the customer site also generated.

   Status-Line: SIP/2.0 477 Unfortunately error on sending to next hop
   occurred (477/SL)

Unfortunately the error is not generated by my Kamailio, but by a Kamailio at the provider, when it gets a Bye forwarded via their SBC.


I have attached a capture which the provider send me. This is the setup

   linphone -> My Kamailio PBX (194.255.22.44:36089) -> provider
   Kamailio(194.247.61.26) -> SBC(194.247.61.32) -> provider
   Kamailio(194.247.61.26) -> my Asterisk (194.255.22.44:45075)

A note on the providers Kamailio. It listens on both port 5060 and 5070, and both UDP/TCP. It is also used as access point for both my PBX and my Asterisk, thus the trace may be a little confusing to read.

As far as I can see, the provider Kamailio gets the correct To/From and CallID in the bye. Thus it should be able to match the TCP connection.
The flow is also clean, there is no change of ports etc.



I have this reference setup which works

   linphone -> provider Kamailio -> SBC -> provider Kamailio -> my Asterisk

The only differences towards the reference I can see these. I do not have a capture from the provider on this.

 * There is an extra Via step.
 * Contact points to the Linphone IP, not the Kamailio IP

Any hint will be appreciated.



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On 11/9/20 12:06 PM, Daniel-Constantin Mierla wrote:

Hello,

there is no association between a SIP call and a TCP connection. SIP is not designed on TCP streams, the forwarding is based on the headers. It doesn't matter if there are messages belonging to same call or not, they can share same connection, or can open a new one...

The BYE from caller gets to 194.247.61.32:5040, which cannot deliver it further based on Route header. The system at 194.247.61.26:5070 must be able to accept connections on advertised port of the Route address. Again, connection interruption can happen from various cases, it cannot rely on ephemeral ports, but on what the SIP system advertises as "listen" address.

One can play with tcp port aliases, look at Kamailio core cookbook, in case 194.247.61.32:5040 can do that. But that is not the proper way for server to server communication, there will be cases when the connection will be cut for various reasons (can be also the IP routes in the path that get congested).

Otherwise, you can follow the code of tcp_send() function in the tcp_main.c from core to see how tcp connection is matched, there are various cases there, also a matter of the config parameters.

Cheers,
Daniel

On 09.11.20 10:13, Kjeld Flarup wrote:
Hello

I have attached a pcap received from the provider.

It is quite informative as it shows bits of how they forward the call.

We send to 194.247.61.26 which is a Kamailio proxy, that forwards the call to a SBC  194.247.61.32

My guess is that the  194.247.61.26 kamailio gets confused, and does not match the BYE with the ongoing TCP session. Instead it sees it as a new session, and forwards it according to the route information.

Can anybody help explaining what fields Kamailio uses to match an ongoing TCP session.

  Regards Kjeld

Den fre. 6. nov. 2020 kl. 10.50 skrev Daniel-Constantin Mierla <mico...@gmail.com <mailto:mico...@gmail.com>>:

    Hello,

    from SIP specs point of view, can be any port -- ACK and BYE do
    not have to follow same path as INVITE, so they can even come
    from a different IP.

    Then, the call can be closed after 30secs because also the ACK
    has the same problems with the header as the BYE. Your pcap
    didn't include all the traffic, you have to capture both
    directions on your kamailio server to see what happens on each side.

    Cheers,
    Daniel


    On 06.11.20 10:35, Kjeld Flarup wrote:
    Hi Daniel

    The Unknown Dialog comes because the server hang up the call 30
    seconds earlier. We never gets these BYE messages, thus the door
    phone hangs times out and hangs up.

    My question is still, which port is the BYE from the server
    supposed to be sent to?

    The original 37148
    The new 37150
    or the advertised 5071

    Regards Kjeld

    Den fre. 6. nov. 2020 kl. 10.18 skrev Daniel-Constantin Mierla
    <mico...@gmail.com <mailto:mico...@gmail.com>>:

        Hello,

        I think you hunt a mirage problem here by looking at the
        ports of tcp connections, if you think that being different
        ports is the cause of BYE failure. The ACK fpr 200ok is
        independent of the INVITE transaction and can have a
        completely different path than INVITE, thus is completely
        valid to use another connection. Of course, if follows the
        same path as INVITE, if the connection is still open, it
        should be reused. But is a matter of matching, it can be
        that the INVITE uses different destination identifiers or
        the connection gets cut from different reasons. But the
        point is that even if there is a different connection, it
        should work.

        So, I actually looked at the pcap capture you sent in one of
        your previous emails and the BYE is sent out, but gets back:

        SIP/2.0 481 Unknown Dialog.

        Therefore it gets to the end point, which doesn't match it
        with any of its active calls. Looking at the headers, the
        200ok/INVITE has:

        From: "Front Door"
        <sip:32221660@194.255.22.44:5071>;tag=thm9OFNQemH0IsqgRR1jDGF4rjVivTOK.
        To: <sip:004540294149@127.0.0.1:5071>;tag=12003375157297.
        Call-ID: ***FgXBdt966gypC5V1T5VGUtLILtzxsJJ57NRSL5UMUiq*.

        And the BYE:

        From: "Front Door"
        <sip:u0@192.168.2.9>;tag=thm9OFNQemH0IsqgRR1jDGF4rjVivTOK.
        To:
        
sip:195.249.145.198:5060;transport=udp;line=sr-z-yMngm27FwI73qx0CQo6gm2n3ao03LMn5UILt2NziWIO3ooTDc*;tag=12003375157297.
        Call-ID: ***FgXBdt966gypC5V1T5VGUtLILtzxsJJ57NRSL5UMUiq*.

        While the dialog should be matched on call-id, from/to-tags,
        the From/To URI should be the same to be strict conformant
        with RFC3261 (that mandates unchanged From/To for backward
        compatibility with RFC2543). Likely you do some From/To
        header changes that are not done correctly to update/restore
        the values for traffic within dialog.

        Cheers,
        Daniel

        On 06.11.20 09:31, Kjeld Flarup wrote:
        Thanks Juha

        That makes it somehow easier to understand my capture. My
        Kamailio must then have detected a broken TCP connection,
        though I cannot see why in the capture, neither in the log,
        but I only run on debug level 2.
        It receives a 200 OK on port 37148, and then establishes
        37150 to reply with an ACK.

        However two seconds before receiving the 200 OK, there are
        some spurious retransmissions and out of order on 37148.
        Perhaps this has caused Kamailio to deem the connection
        bad, but it still receives data on it.
        Now I assume that the providers server (Which also is
        flying Kamailio) should detect the new port, and continue
        using that. I got a trace from the provider, where there is
        no disturbance. Thus the server thinks that the connection
        is OK.

        Now my next question is, what makes a Kamailio detect this
        change?
        Is it a problem that I only rewrite To and From in the
        INVITE, thus the ACK contains some other values.


        It is also a bit strange that I get this error exactly, the
        same place in the conversation every time I make a call.
        Somehow I suspect some NAT timeout in the router. (it is
        not carrier grade NAT).
        Can I do anything to prevent a NAT timeout from the client
        side?


        Another thing. I assume that sending my internal port in
        the From field, or any kind of advertising, should be
        ignored by the server.

        Regards Kjeld



        Den fre. 6. nov. 2020 kl. 07.45 skrev Juha Heinanen
        <j...@tutpro.com <mailto:j...@tutpro.com>>:

            Kjeld Flarup writes:

            > How is TCP SIP actually supposed to handle a BYE,
            when the client is
            > behind NAT.

            Client behind NAT is supposed to keep its TCP
            connection to SIP Proxy
            alive and use it for all requests of the call.  If the
            connection breaks
            for some reason, the client sets up a new one for the
            remaining
            requests.

            -- Juha

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