Any docs/articles you could share? besides Kamailio docs....

Atenciosamente / Kind Regards / Cordialement / Un saludo,


*Sérgio Charrua*

On Mon, Dec 23, 2024 at 12:58 PM Stefan via sr-users <
sr-users@lists.kamailio.org> wrote:

>
> Just a short followup.
>
> It looks as modules evapi and asynch could be used to build access to a
> service using a messagebus.
> Will probably try it. Looks interesting enough.
>
> //s
>
>
> lör 2024-12-21 klockan 19:11 +0100 skrev Stefan via sr-users:
>
>
> Never had to use it. If you work with roundtrip times in microseconds, it
> becomes irrelevant.
> Have been replacing Req./Rep. situations with events, dataflows and
> triggers effectively removing the associated latencies.
>
> Implementing ST/SH, or similar, services is interesting though. I can see
> the value, but implemented as suggested previously.
> There are probably others on the list that can suggest how processing
> suspend/resume can be done in a good way.
> It's suspend/resume you want. http_whatever is probably not.
>
> Regards,
> Stefan
>
> lör 2024-12-21 klockan 11:40 +0100 skrev Sergio Charrua via sr-users:
>
> Hello,
>
> just wondering what would be the best approach to use http_async_client on
> a stateless redirect server, if that is even possible. Any examples to
> share?
>
> Also, as a side note, documentation/wiki Kamailio Modules
> <https://kamailio.org/docs/modules/5.8.x/#H>  states that HTTP_CLIENT is
> a "Sync and async HTTP client using CURL library" but there are no examples
> on how to use async HTTP with this module....
>
> Atenciosamente / Kind Regards / Cordialement / Un saludo,
>
>
> *Sérgio Charrua*
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2024 at 10:19 AM Stefan via sr-users <
> sr-users@lists.kamailio.org> wrote:
>
>
> Hi, Tried to comment yesterday but it didn't go through.
>
> <snip>
> I would suggest use some message bus technology, work with services
> accessed over that bus and data that live in RAM. Choose your favorite
> programming language and build. I typically work with roundtrip times
> of microseconds. Then you can do pretty much what you like, no
> problems.
>
> //s
> </snip>
>
> Now that I see the services accessed, ST/SH, is "http across town",
> nothing changes, then whatever http is to be processed should be done at/as
> a service.
> Accessed using your favorite message bus tech. from Kamailio.
> Keeping the kamailio processing asynch and using an edge triggered message
> bus.
>
> Regards,
> Stefan
>
>
>
>
> tor 2024-12-19 klockan 20:34 -0500 skrev Alexis Fidalgo via sr-users:
>
> The mentioned ‘aws hosted webservice’ on my email is a stir shaken + call
> fraud scoring + ecnam service, no possible cache there.
>
> Actually the diameter section is not cacheable either (leads to false
> positives) I  just tested and  mentioned it with the intention to graphic
> the concept of ‘delete the wait’ (if possible)
>
> Sometimes caching is not possible at all. And the price (as we pay) is to
> assign resources and watch it being occupied waiting. Trust me, 9000 caps
> made me try a lot of paths
>
>
> Enviado desde dispositivo móvil
>
> El 19 dic 2024, a la(s) 7:12 p. m., Sergio Charrua <sergio.char...@voip.pt>
> escribió:
>
> 
> I understand the idea behind using cache facilities, however in this case,
> being a ST/SH attestation service, all calls need to be attested and the
> probability that multiple calls having src and dst numbers identical is,
> IMHO, very reduced.
> So I don't see how a caching system could be used here, hence why HTTP is
> "a necessary evil".... unless i'm missing something here....
>
> Atenciosamente / Kind Regards / Cordialement / Un saludo,
>
>
> *Sérgio Charrua*
>
> On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 11:19 PM Alexis Fidalgo via sr-users <
> sr-users@lists.kamailio.org> wrote:
>
> To add some information if useful. In our case there are 2 main “actions”
> performed as processing when http service is called that takes a lot of
> time (there are more but are negligible against these 2)
>
> 1. A query to an Diameter DRA (which for external reasons or customer
> reasons) takes an average of 150ms (and in some other cities of the deploys
> can take more because of the delay in the links)
> 2. A query to a rest webservice that is in AWS, not that bad as point 1
> but still bad (~70ms)
>
> So, in the best of scenarios, we have ~225ms, maybe if the DRA load
> balances to another HSS we get ~180ms total call processing.
>
> That is bad, really bad.
>
> To probe the idea and before any major changes in any part, I started to
> keep DRA responses in a redis (we use dragonfly), it’s not consistent in
> terms of our call processing flow but my idea was to “remove” the delay of
> the diameter query (I run the query, keep the result in redis, when a new
> request arrives for the same value I use the cached value and send a new
> DRA query in other thread to avoid lock the current one and update the
> redis).
>
> With this, we removed the DRA query wait, so 220ms became 70/72ms.
>
> Instantly all cpu usage, all retransmissions, everything disappeared, cpu,
> mem went down drastically, etc etc.
>
> That’s why I mentioned ’wait time is the enemy’, http is not (maybe is not
> your best friend but not the enemy). If it works, there’s an analogy, you
> can try to improve aerodynamics, engine and whatever in a F1 car, but if
> the driver is heavy …
>
> Hope it helps
>
>
> > On Dec 19, 2024, at 5:18 PM, Alex Balashov via sr-users <
> sr-users@lists.kamailio.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> On Dec 19, 2024, at 1:06 pm, Calvin E. via sr-users <
> sr-users@lists.kamailio.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Consider scaling out instead of scaling up. Now that you know the
> >> apparent limit of a single node for your use case, put it behind a
> >> Kamailio dispatcher.
> >
> > On the other hand, you might consider scaling up first, since HTTP
> performs so badly that there is lots of improvement to be squeezed out of
> optimising that even a little.
> >
> > You might think of scaling out as a form of premature optimisation. :-)
> >
> > -- Alex
> >
> > --
> > Alex Balashov
> > Principal Consultant
> > Evariste Systems LLC
> > Web: https://evaristesys.com
> > Tel: +1-706-510-6800
> >
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