As a curiosity, if one were to create an EVAPI client to handle these requests, wouldn't the transaction still need to be stored in shared memory with somewhat similar memory usage?
I'm not quite clear why you keep stating that it's not going to be free. I never claimed it to be. In fact, I've consistently stated that the cost is in shared memory, and I don't see any possible way in which the requests could be processed that is not in shared memory somewhere UNLESS the response time can be addressed. Kaufman Senior Voice Engineer E: [email protected] SIP.US Client Support: 800.566.9810 | SIPTRUNK Client Support: 800.250.6510 | Flowroute Client Support: 855.356.9768 [img]<https://www.sip.us> [img]<https://www.siptrunk.com> [img]<https://www.flowroute.com> ________________________________ From: Alex Balashov via sr-users <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 23, 2024 3:02 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Cc: Alex Balashov <[email protected]> Subject: [SR-Users] Re: Kamailio not receiving packets on high CPS CAUTION: This email originated from outside the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. On Dec 23, 2024, at 3:14 pm, Ben Kaufman <[email protected]> wrote: The difference in performance is substantial. Your indication that the performance of the two modules as near equal is incorrect. Both in theory and in practice it is the better of the two options. If you confine the scope of your evaluation to Kamailio itself, then of course it's substantial; you've deputised the event mux/polling workload into kernel space. While that makes it invisible, it doesn't obviate the clock cycles. I'm talking about formal performance. This is like saying that Node can handle a tremendous amount of requests with a single process. I suppose it can, but only because it's able to farm out the work of monitoring sockets for data to the OS, and erase it from the ledger, if you like, of userspace costs. They still go somewhere, and that somewhere is constrained by available resources and dimensioning. Assuming you've used this repo and assets to make your case: https://github.com/whosgonna/kamailio_http_async this is not a fair or reasonable comparison. In one case, you're using an external polling loop, and in the other, you're blocking your worker processes by definition. I doubt you could get 3 CPS through that config if the async shvar is set to 0. Furthermore, the idea of an HTTP service that responds like a metronome in 1 sec, over local sockets and without any of the overhead of connection setup over a real-world network, is so contrived as to be tautological. You've neutered the synchronous approach to the maximum possible extent, while testing the asynchronous one in highly idealised conditions. In fact, tried your repo, followed your instructions on a hex-core server with 16 GB of RAM (2 GB of SHM allocated to Kamailio) and was able to get about 1600 CPS -- more than twice the OP's ask -- before seeing any retransmissions. It's so contrived as to be tautological, as if to say that being rich, young and healthy is better than being old, ill and poor. I cannot agree more. If you empower the synchronous http_client approach with a comparable degree of parallelism, i.e. a large pool of worker processes with minimum package memory, you'll get comparable throughput. I agree that there are memory limits around that in Kamailio's concurrency model, and that was never in dispute. But you're going to pay it somewhere either way: Mem: 16175052K used, 217632K free, 266764K shrd, 219644K buff, 10489916K cached CPU: 22% usr 15% sys 0% nic 58% idle 0% io 0% irq 3% sirq Load average: 0.46 0.54 0.45 7/555 32 PID PPID USER STAT VSZ %VSZ CPU %CPU COMMAND 14 1 root R 2076m 12% 3 14% kamailio -dDDE -de -n 2 -m 2048 10 1 root R 2073m 12% 1 3% kamailio -dDDE -de -n 2 -m 2048 9 1 root S 2073m 12% 3 3% kamailio -dDDE -de -n 2 -m 2048 12 1 root S 2073m 12% 0 0% kamailio -dDDE -de -n 2 -m 2048 1 0 root S 2073m 12% 4 0% kamailio -dDDE -de -n 2 -m 2048 17 1 root S 2073m 12% 4 0% kamailio -dDDE -de -n 2 -m 2048 13 1 root S 2073m 12% 1 0% kamailio -dDDE -de -n 2 -m 2048 16 1 root S 2073m 12% 3 0% kamailio -dDDE -de -n 2 -m 2048 11 1 root S 2073m 12% 5 0% kamailio -dDDE -de -n 2 -m 2048 7 1 root S 2073m 12% 5 0% kamailio -dDDE -de -n 2 -m 2048 8 1 root S 2073m 12% 2 0% kamailio -dDDE -de -n 2 -m 2048 15 1 root S 2073m 12% 4 0% kamailio -dDDE -de -n 2 -m 2048 18 1 root S 2073m 12% 2 0% kamailio -dDDE -de -n 2 -m 2048 26 0 root S 1696 0% 1 0% ash 32 26 root R 1624 0% 0 0% top -d 1 async is not magic. This is why we say it moves the problem around. -- Alex -- Alex Balashov Principal Consultant Evariste Systems LLC Web: https://evaristesys.com Tel: +1-706-510-6800
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