At 08:09 AM 8/20/01 -0500, you wrote: >and is there anything I have to get done before I can run? >(Boiler certification, etc.) Hah! Several years ago at DH, in a Q&A period after a boiler seminar, I made the statement that eventually this would become necessary for our own good, and as an indication to the general public (and the courts) that personal safety is a foremost concern in small scale live steam, and that we should begin to develop a certification process, or at least be aware that it would eventually come. I was nearly chased from the podium. One hombre went for his shootin' arn. This doesn't mean that I advocate required certifications. Not at all, and when talking about this subject it should be kept in mind that in the U.S., in most states, what you do within the confines of private property with your invited guests is your own business. It's when we operate in the presence of the uninformed public (like DH) that the atmosphere changes. All one has to do is to look around at large scale clubs and associations in the US, England, and Australia to see that ALL of organized live steam has adopted programs and requirements to certify and demonstrate that the well being of the general public is of concern to us. Regards, Harry Wade Nashville, Tn