Hi
There are multipals of 4-4-0 s in britain ( ie ) the Dee as per Dicks
;;; the LMS and midland railway produced two ( ie ) the 2P and the 4 P these
# s represented the duty they were produced ,
I am presently producing a MR Compound 4-4-0 but with a single cylinder
and a 3 to 1 gear drive wich produces 6 power strokes per rev ;;; the loco
itself is finished but a tender is now underway .
Graham S,
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From: XXYZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 1:31 PM
Subject: RE: American Project
> Vance, and all
>
> Thanks for the interesting information!
>
> My intention, and the origin of this thread, was to develop a "project",
Dee
> type book for an American prototype 4-4-0 (American) in 1/32 scale. (What
do
> they call a 4-4-0 in Britain?)
>
> I don't see any reason that there couldn't be an option for a 1:20 or 1:19
> trim (cab, pilot, etc.). I seem to recall seeing a 4-4-0 running on the
> Cumbres & Toltec somewhere on the web. It looked for all practical
purposes
> like any other 4-4-0. Any one have any info? It depend on how big a
project
> this becomes on whether I decide to add these options (or do anything at
> all). I was thinking it would be nice, since I am building the locomotive
> for myself and since I am designing it in CAD (3d solids) before I do any
> chip making, that it would be only a bit more work, and a big benefit to
> those like myself, who really like the Dee, but would prefer an more local
> prototype, to put the instructions and drawings into a book. My intention
is
> to have as few "manufactured" parts as needed to keep in the spirit of the
> Dee/Project books. So far wheel castings will be the only parts that are
not
> currently available in the size/style that is needed. Tender trucks and
> other small detail castings appear to be available through the current
> trade.
>
> Thanks to all for the wonderful discussion and suggestions, so far.
>
> Ken
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> > Behalf Of VR Bass
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 11:07 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam
> > Subject: Re: American Project
> >
> >
> > > However, I do agree that a 4-4-0 steam engine could easily be
converted
> > > from 1/32nd std gauge to 1/20.3 NG, just by changing the cab size and
> > > adjusting a few details.
> >
> > This brings up an interesting possibility. Converting standard gauge
> > locomotives to narrow gauge (or vice versa) was accomplished by
> > moving the
> > wheels from outside to inside the frames (or vice versa). Since
> > you have to
> > remove the wheels and replace the axles, you would want to
> > replace the wheels
> > with some of the proper type (no. of spokes, no crankpin boss, etc),
thus
> > answering Art's concern.
> >
> > Now, we're still talking about a 4-4-0 type, right? There were very few
> > outside-frame 4-4-0s made, but they're very interesting locos.
> > The 30" gauge
> > E. de F. Oeste de Minas in southeastern Brasil, now a preserved
> > line, still has
> > a couple from Baldwin in operating condition. They're lovely
> > little kettles,
> > and would be extraordinarily charming as scale steamers. They also have
> > outside-frame 4-6-0s and 2-8-0s, any of which I would love to
> > have in small-
> > scale live steam.
> >
> > But I have noticed that some people don't care for exotic
> > prototypes, even if
> > built in Philadelphia using US practices. So, you may not find
> > the notion of
> > an outside-frame 4-4-0 appealing, in which case I think this idea
> > is not going
> > to be very productive. You can't just bang the wheels closer
> > together on the
> > axles -- there are frames and valve gear in between which will
> > hamper that
> > operation.
> >
> > So, back to the original topic: what are the impediments to doing
> > a standard
> > gauge, "project" type 4-4-0? Just the willingness to undertake
> > it, I would
> > say. The G1MRA Project Book should give most of the general
construction
> > methods, and it would be up to you to modify them to suit the
> > prototype. Not a
> > screw-together kit, but doable.
> >
> > regards,
> > -vance-
> >
> > Vance Bass
> > Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA
> > Small-scale live steam resources: http://www.nmia.com/~vrbass
> >
> >
>
