Good points Vance. One friend insists on buying tools and keeping them in their original plastic blister packs to retain "collector value". I prefer "use value". At least this sort of collector does preserve a model for someone like me to purchase 25 years latter in mint condition for a used price. I love the Alisan Shay. Gary - Running trains over Terror Trestle in Eugene, Oregon http://www.angelfire.com/or/trainguy http://community.webshots.com/user/raltzenthor