Hi Lukas,

> I tried to look into systemd documentation and I could not see
> anything in documentation which would say that it is a reliable
> way to use a pid file. (It might change in future if it is not documented)
> 
> man systemd.service says
>            If set to forking, it is expected that the process configured with
>            ExecStart= will call fork() as part of its start-up. The parent
>            process is expected to exit when start-up is complete and all
>            communication channels are set up. The child continues to run as
>            the main daemon process. This is the behavior of traditional UNIX
>            daemons. If this setting is used, it is recommended to also use the
>            PIDFile= option, so that systemd can identify the main process of
>            the daemon. systemd will proceed with starting follow-up units as
>            soon as the parent process exits.
> //snip
>        PIDFile=
>            Takes an absolute file name pointing to the PID file of this
>            daemon. Use of this option is recommended for services where Type=
>            is set to forking. systemd will read the PID of the main process of
>            the daemon after start-up of the service. systemd will not write to
>            the file configured here, although it will remove the file after
>            the service has shut down if it still exists.
> 
> It might help for upstart but for systemd it might be better to use
> "Type=notify" instead of "Type=forking".
> 

I haven't tried using "Type=notify", but I don't think it would make a
difference if we can't hold the notification signal until the responders
are running.

> Is the bug reproducible only with upstart or also with systemd?
> For systemd only I would prefer "Type=notify"
>

I've been able to reproduce this bug in both upstart and systemd, but
the numbers differ significantly (~40% of the runs with upstart, ~1% or
less with systemd).

Kind regards,

Victor
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