Hello all,

Apologies for the necromancy here, but there seems to be conflicting
information regarding group enumeration within an IPA AD Trust,
specifically, these tidbits:

> > >>>>>>> ad_users is an IPA group that contains an IPA external group that
> > >>>>>>> contains the users, right?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Correct.

> > >>>> To confirm: Is the idea behind your patches that it will enumerate 
> > >>>> users in groups that have not logged before? Ie. I have no means to 
> > >>>> determine which users are in a group on the sssd/ipa side.

According to this thread and its linked bug reports, this was
addressed in SSSD versions >= 1.14.0-43.  But, per the URL
https://access.redhat.com/solutions/3597701 the following is stated:

"Enumeration is not supported in IPA-AD trust environments."
"This is an expected behaviour if SSSD is not enumerating all AD
users/groups on IPA server or client after setting enumerate = True
and subdomain_enumerate = True in sssd.conf."

&

"Enumeration' is not supported in IPA-AD trust environments. As per
confirmation from IPA/SSSD engineering team, there is no plan on
supporting enumeration with IPA-AD trusts as it just wouldn't scale
with large AD domains."

Our AD domain does permit enumeration as the sssd_nss.log on the IPA
master didn't manifest a message stating that the domain does not
support enumeration.

Given the aforementioned information, is it correct to assume that
current versions of SSSD and IPA do not support enumerating a group
which contains trusted AD users who haven't logged in before/been
queried via `groups`, `id`, or `getent passwd`?

Thank you!
John DeSantis

Il giorno ven 29 gen 2016 alle ore 17:52 Jakub Hrozek
<jhro...@redhat.com> ha scritto:
>
> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 04:13:01PM +0100, Bolke de Bruin wrote:
> >
> > > Op 28 jan. 2016, om 21:44 heeft Jakub Hrozek <jhro...@redhat.com> het 
> > > volgende geschreven:
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 06:37:11PM +0100, Bolke de Bruin wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Op 28 jan. 2016, om 18:03 heeft Jakub Hrozek <jhro...@redhat.com> het 
> > >>> volgende geschreven:
> > >>>
> > >>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 10:29:06PM +0100, Bolke de Bruin wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Op 27 jan. 2016, om 22:25 heeft Jakub Hrozek <jhro...@redhat.com> het 
> > >>>>> volgende geschreven:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> On 27 Jan 2016, at 17:50, Bolke de Bruin <bdbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Op 27 jan. 2016, om 17:46 heeft Jakub Hrozek <jhro...@redhat.com> 
> > >>>>>>> het volgende geschreven:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 05:42:02PM +0100, Bolke de Bruin wrote:
> > >>>>>>>> Hello,
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> I have sssd 1.13.00 working against FreeIPA 4.2 domain. This 
> > >>>>>>>> domain has a trust relationship with a active directory domain.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> One of the systems we are using requires to enumerate all users in 
> > >>>>>>>> groups by (unfortunate) design (Apache Ranger). This is done by 
> > >>>>>>>> using
> > >>>>>>>> “getent group”. During this enumeration the full user list for a 
> > >>>>>>>> group that has a nested external member group* is not always 
> > >>>>>>>> returned so we thought to
> > >>>>>>>> add “getent group mygroup” in order to get more details. 
> > >>>>>>>> Unfortunately this does not seem to work consistently: sometimes 
> > >>>>>>>> this gives information sometimes it does not:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> [root@master centos]# getent group ad_users
> > >>>>>>>> ad_users:*:1950000004:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> [root@master centos]# id bolke@ad.local
> > >>>>>>>> UID=1796201107(bolke@ad.local) GID=1796201107(bolke@ad.local) 
> > >>>>>>>> groepen=1796201107(bolke@ad.local),1796200513(domain 
> > >>>>>>>> users@ad.local),1796201108(test@ad.local)
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> [root@master centos]# getent group ad_users
> > >>>>>>>> ad_users:*:1950000004:bolke@ad.local <mailto:bolke@ad.local>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> If I clear the cache (sss_cache -E) the entry is gone again:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> [root@master centos]# getent group ad_users
> > >>>>>>>> ad_users:*:1950000004:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> My question is how do I get sssd to enumerate *all users* in a 
> > >>>>>>>> group consistently?
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Thanks!
> > >>>>>>>> Bolke
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> ad_users is an IPA group that contains an IPA external group that
> > >>>>>>> contains the users, right?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Correct.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> If so, then you're hitting:
> > >>>>>>> https://fedorahosted.org/sssd/ticket/2522
> > >>>>>>> I've been working on fixing this lately and have some patches, 
> > >>>>>>> would you
> > >>>>>>> like to test them?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Sure. I would prefer RPMs (this is on RHEL 6 and 7) but I can 
> > >>>>>> compile if required.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> This issue must be fixed with sssd on the IPA server itself. Please 
> > >>>>> send me your exact sssd version (rpm -q output) and I'll build you a 
> > >>>>> test package tomorrow..
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> rpm -qa sssd*
> > >>>> sssd-common-pac-1.13.0-40.el7_2.1.x86_64
> > >>>> sssd-krb5-1.13.0-40.el7_2.1.x86_64
> > >>>> sssd-client-1.13.0-40.el7_2.1.x86_64
> > >>>> sssd-krb5-common-1.13.0-40.el7_2.1.x86_64
> > >>>> sssd-ipa-1.13.0-40.el7_2.1.x86_64
> > >>>> sssd-ldap-1.13.0-40.el7_2.1.x86_64
> > >>>> sssd-proxy-1.13.0-40.el7_2.1.x86_64
> > >>>> sssd-common-1.13.0-40.el7_2.1.x86_64
> > >>>> sssd-ad-1.13.0-40.el7_2.1.x86_64
> > >>>> sssd-1.13.0-40.el7_2.1.x86_64
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> To confirm: Is the idea behind your patches that it will enumerate 
> > >>>> users in groups that have not logged before? Ie. I have no means to 
> > >>>> determine which users are in a group on the sssd/ipa side.
> > >>>
> > >>> Hello Bolke, please try these builds:
> > >>> https://jhrozek.fedorapeople.org/sssd-test-builds/sssd-7.2-external-groups/
> > >>>
> > >>> These do resolve the AD members via an IPA group for me:
> > >>>   # rm -f /var/lib/sss/db/cache_ipa.test.ldb
> > >>>   # systemctl start sssd.service
> > >>>   # getent group l_idm_admin
> > >>>   
> > >>> l_idm_admin:*:1190000005:administra...@win.trust.test,pku...@win.trust.test
> > >>>
> > >>> The groups are defined like this:
> > >>> # ipa group-show l_idm_admin
> > >>> Group name: l_idm_admin
> > >>> GID: 1190000005
> > >>> Member groups: l_idm_admin_external
> > >>> # ipa group-show l_idm_admin_external
> > >>> Group name: l_idm_admin_external
> > >>> Member of groups: l_idm_admin
> > >>> External member: extgr...@win.trust.test, administra...@win.trust.test
> > >>>
> > >>> (So the code even crawls the AD group and unrolls the pkuser from there)
> > >>
> > >> Cool, but the files are currently inaccessible (403). Would you mind 
> > >> updating the permissions?
> > >
> > > My fault, try now.
> > > _______________________________________________
> >
> > Works fine in my small testing setup. I will do some more testing across 
> > the weekend, but this helps already quite a lot.
> > My company might reach out on the corporate channels for this as we are 
> > planning to deploy quite a sizable IPA cluster.
>
> I'm glad this helped. I'll be also interested if you see any oddities --
> if you do, please add debug_level=10 to the sssd.conf's [domain] section,
> run sss_cache -E, request the group and send me the log files.
>
> Please note that at the moment we are aware of an issue with idviews,
> where if you define an alternate name, getent group would still return
> the original name. We are working on a fix there, but we don't have one yet.
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