On Mon, 2013-07-15 at 15:38 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: > On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Steven Rostedt <rost...@goodmis.org> wrote: > > > > Can we please make this into a Kernel Summit discussion. I highly doubt > > we would solve anything, but it certainly would be a fun segment to > > watch :-) > > I think we should, because I think it's the kind of thing we really > need at the KS - talking about "process".
Can you formulate the process issue to discuss? I've heard "Linus needs to yell less at people" and "the mailing lists need to be more 'professional'" neither of which seems to identify an actual process. Are we perhaps discussing guidelines for giving feedback on patches? > At the same time, I really don't know what the format would possibly > be like for it to really work as a reasonable discussion. And I think > that is important, because this kind of subject is *not* likely > possible in the traditional "people sit around tables and maybe > somebody has a few slides" format. > A small panel discussion with a few people (fiveish?) that have very > different viewpoints, along with baskets of rotten fruit set out on > the tables? That could be fun. And I'm serious, although we might want > to limit the size of the fruit to smaller berries ;) How about Lychees? They're prickly on the outside, very wet on the inside and have large stones ... But what are the viewpoints? "maintainers need to yell more"? "maintainers need to yell less"? I don't think I agree with either. I'm perfectly happy to run linux-scsi along reasonable standards of civility and try to keep the debates technical, but that's far easier to do on a low traffic list; obviously, I realise that style of argument doesn't suit everyone, so it's not a standard of behaviour I'd like to see universally imposed. In fact, I've got to say that I wouldn't like to see *any* behaviour standard imposed ... they're all basically cover for power plays (or soon get abused as power plays); the only real way to display leadership on behaviour standards is by example not by fiat. James -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe stable" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
