Hi

As noted in the other thread, I think we need to release an launcher
that works out of the box (without requiring users to download
additional files first).

The "empty" launcher might be useful for some users, but typically
exactly such users will anyway want to create an own customized
launcher (most likely by using one of the std. one as a starting
point.

best
Rupert

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Fabian Christ
<[email protected]> wrote:
> 2011/7/20 Olivier Grisel <[email protected]>:
>> 2011/7/20 Fabian Christ <[email protected]>:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I chew the problem of OpenNLP models and EntityHub data over and came
>>> to the conclusion that it may be a good solution to split releases of
>>> the Stanbol Framework from releases of enhancement engines and data
>>> models.
>>>
>>> The Stanbol Framework is usable software even it comes without any
>>> Entityhub data models or enhancement engines. I could imagine that
>>> there is a group of users who would like to have an empty Stanbol
>>> environment that they can fill up with their own data and specific
>>> engines. So releasing Stanbol framework independent of any data models
>>> and engines would make sense.
>>>
>>> Additionally, it would solve our current problems and we could start
>>> with our release cycle. Once we have an engine or data model that is
>>> ready for use and can be released under Apache, we can release just
>>> that engine. We should focus on making the installation of new engines
>>> in Stanbol as easy as possible in the future. Rupert already did a lot
>>> of work on this for the data models.
>>>
>>> This would require no change at all in our current trunk development.
>>> I would only add a minimal Stanbol framework launcher that comes with
>>> no data models and no engines. It's just to start up the framework.
>>> This framework launcher would be part of the release. All other
>>> launchers that already include engines and data models will not be
>>> released.
>>>
>>> WDYT?
>>
>> I think this is an ok solution for the short term, hoping that we will
>> be able to package default models under a clear license for the next
>> release.
>>
>> But I don't expect many users that really want an "empty" Stanbol. We
>> will need to make it clear on the release notes that to be able to use
>> the engines you need to build the data bundles yourself or download
>> them from a non-ASF hosted site.
>
> Yes right now there may be not so much users for "empty" stack. But
> IMO it would be a good design to keep the framework and any data
> models and engines separated.
>
> Perhaps we could release a "Person, Organization, Location, Linked
> Open Data" - Stanbol in the near future. But such a release would be
> on top of a released framework version.
>
>> However, why not embed the default, small dbpedia_43k index? It does
>> not have any licensing issue.
>
> This index is used by the EntityHub right? Yes, why not include it as
> the standard index for the EntityHub. But we can not include the
> EntityHub enhancement engine since it requires the OpenNLP engine to
> run before, right?
>
> --
> Fabian
>



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