Hi Anil, all

Created also an own thread for this topic …

Currently my focus is not (yet) on the implementation, but much more on how 
features like

* Entity substitution (replacing "Paris" in a query with the entity 
"http://dbpedia.org/resource/Paris";)
* Entity Facets (adding facets for Entities used  or substituted in the Users 
query)
* Semantic Facets (adding Facets and possible special UI elements) based on the 
type of Entities used in the Query or the type Instances selected by query)

I clearly agree that the

* Entityhub could be used to implement Entity substitution and Entity Facets 
* Ontologies managed by the Ontonet component could be used to provide Semantic 
Facets

and that the current implementations of the Contenthub provides already a lot 
of functionality related to that. However I think before we start to implement 
we need first a more clear picture how all such features could help End-Users 
to interact with the Knowledge-Space we want to manage in the Contenthub.


So if people could share Ideas, existing Examples of cool search interfaces … 
it would be really helpful!


Some links to existing resources of the IKS project:

* For the first Community Meeting of the IKS project I created an presentation 
on semantic search [1]. I think some of the concepts presented by this 
presentation are still highly relevant.
* The UserStories[2] 
    * "S01" mentions "Entity Facets"
    * "S04" could be supported by "Entity substitution" but goes much further 
than that
    * "S20" suggest query and result contextualization based on user specific 
profiles. Maybe a feature we might also want to consider when defining the API
    * "S27" includes "Entity substitution" and "Semantic Facets"

Sebastian/Jakob maybe you could also provide a short overview about related 
resources/demos based on the work on the LMF


best
Rupert

[1] 
http://www.interactive-knowledge.org/sites/www.interactive-knowledge.org/files/iks_semantic_search_20090528_rw.pdf
[2] http://wiki.iks-project.eu/index.php/User-stories


On 28.10.2011, at 10:07, Ali Anil SINACI wrote:

> 
> 
>>>> * The Semantic Search Inteface: The Contenthub currently defines it's own 
>>>> query API (supports keyword based search as well as "field ->   value" 
>>>> like constraints, supports facets). The LMF directly exposes the RESTful 
>>>> API of the semantic Solr index. I strongly prefer the approach of the LMF, 
>>>> because the two points already described above.
>>> We think that we do not have to make a selection here. We can keep a simple 
>>> wrap-up on the Solr interface (contenthub's own query API) while providing 
>>> the Solr RESTful API as is. IMO a wrap-up on Solr interface would be 
>>> beneficial. On the other hand, in this interface we try to make use of an 
>>> ontology to be used in OntologyResourceSearchEngine. This might help to 
>>> figure out new keywords based on the subsumption hierarchy inside the 
>>> ontology. However, I think this may lead to performance issues and may not 
>>> be useful at all. We can decide on this later.
>> You forgot to mention one additional advantage for using the Solr RESTful 
>> API: If we do that one could create the Semantic Index and than copy it over 
>> to some other SolrServer without the need to run Stanbol directly on the 
>> production infrastructure.
>> 
>> In general I would suggest to first focus the discussion on the unique 
>> features we would like to provide with the Semantic Search component. I 
>> already included three features I would like to have in my first Mail (Query 
>> preprocessing, Entity Facets, Semantic Facets). As you now mention the 
>> OntologyResourceSearchEngine is very relevant in relation to such features.
>> However adding such features must not necessarily mean to create an own 
>> query language. One could also try to add such features directly to Solr by 
>> implementing some Solr extensions.
>> 
> 
> Let me briefly comment in your suggestions about the semantic search.
> 
>>>>  But I am also the opinion that a semantic search interface should at 
>>>> least provide the following three additional features:
>>>>     1. Query preprocessing: e.g. substitute  "Paris" in the query with 
>>>> "http://dbpedia.org/resource/Paris";;
>>>>     2. Entity Facets: if a keyword matches a Entity (e.g. "Paris" ->   
>>>> "dbpedia:Paris", "dbpedia:Paris_Texas", "dbpedia:Paris_Hilton") than 
>>>> provide a Facet to the user over such possible nnnnnnnnmatches;
> 
> As far as we understand, first and second features will be handled by 
> querying the Entityhub with the query keyword (Paris) i.e the first entity 
> obtained from the Entityhub will help us to recognize its type and the other 
> entities will be served as facet values of Paris facet.
> 
>>>>     3. Semantic Facets: if a user uses an instance of an ontology type 
>>>> (e.g. a Place, Person, Organization) in a query, that provide facets over 
>>>> semantic relations for such types (e.g. fiends for persons, 
>>>> products/services for Organizations, nearby Points-Of-Interests for 
>>>> Places, Participants for Events, …). To implement features like that we 
>>>> need components that provide query preprocessing capabilities based on 
>>>> data available in the Entityhub, Ontonet … . To me it seams that the 
>>>> contenthub/search/engines/ontologyresource component provides already some 
>>>> functionality related to this so this might be a good starting point.
> 
> Currently, we are trying to integrate an exploration mechanism like you said 
> above. It is also based on DBPedia ontology.  OntologyResourceEngine can be 
> used for this purpose for the user registered ontologies. Current 
> implementation of this engine only computes closures by exploiting the 
> hierarchy in the ontology. RDFPath Programs can also be an option at this 
> point. With an RDF Path Program user may specify the relations to be used in 
> the exploration process. But I think this means the user decides beforehand 
> which fields should be presented to him as exploration fields. I think this 
> is open to discussion.
> 
>> best
>> Rupert
>> 
> 
> Regards,
> Anil.

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