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Am 10.09.2010 19:34, schrieb Iñaki Baz Castillo:
> 2010/9/10 Peter Saint-Andre <stpe...@stpeter.im>:
>> Please read the most up-to-date specification:
>>
>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-xmpp-3921bis-12
>>
>> That document is currently in Working Group Last Call at the IETF and I
>> will public version -13 very soon (perhaps even today), which will be
>> the version that goes to IETF Last Call. After IETF Last Call the IESG
>> will vote on approving it, after which it will replace RFC 3921.
> 
> Good to know :)
> 
> 
>>> My question is: why does the server add "ask=subscribe" before roster
>>> pushing to all the other resources? Why doesn't it avoid "ask" and
>>> instead set "subscription=None + Pending Out"?
>>
>> Because that's the way it's been since 1999.
> 
> Ok.
> 
> 
>>> When a resource receives this push it can know that other resource has
>>> requested subscription by inspecting the subscription 'none + prending
>>> out', am I wrong? which is the use case of "ask=subscribe" then?
>>
>> You're asking that we change a core part of the protocol for the sake of
>> syntactic hygiene.
> 
> Oh no, I just ask the reason for it. Perhaps I missed something in the specs 
> :)
> 
> 
>> That's simply not going to happen at this point, but
>> feel free to raise the issue on the XMPP WG list, which is the
>> appropriate venue for discussion of the XMPP RFCs.
>>
>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xmpp
> 
> Thanks for pointing it. However, as I'm not proposing a change (but
> just asking about the current specs), is this the appropriate maillist
> for a question like mine?
> 
> 
Probably. This one or jdev@ I guess.
The "reason" you're looking for is probably that the
subscription-attribute (as opposed to the subscription-state) can only
have the values "to", "from", "both", and "none".
> Thanks a lot.
> 
> 
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