On 2018-05-13 12:38, Jonas Wielicki wrote:
> On Samstag, 12. Mai 2018 19:55:52 CEST Paul Schaub wrote:
> > <message blabla="...">
> >     <timer secs="300">
> >         <body xmlns="jabber:client">This is an ephemeral message</body>
> >     </timer>
> > </message>
> 
> This is awful. It will require the message to carry a non-empty <body/> to 
> deal with the MAM/Carbons mess (and also to help users of clients which do 
> not 
> support this feature).

I would prefer

<message ephemeral="300">
    ...
</message>

Everybody can just us the attribute or ignore it.
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