On Thu, 16 Jan 2020 at 20:55, Daniel Gultsch <dan...@gultsch.de> wrote:
> Am Do., 12. Dez. 2019 um 09:24 Uhr schrieb Dave Cridland < > d...@cridland.net>: > > > 2) The "Daniel Plan", which is to encourage Council to adopt pretty well > anything. If this sounds radical to you, it might help if I described it as > simply reimposing the de-jure standards process as described in XEP-0001. I > can certainly see the attraction, but I also think it ignores the status > quo and the problems alluded to above. Most recently suggested by Daniel > Gultsch. > > If the status quo does not reflect the process described in XEP-0001 > then maybe the status isn’t quo and we should strive to fix that > instead of changing the process. > > If we manage to clean up 'experimental' by advancing what deserves to > be advanced and documenting issues in widely-deployed but not ready to > be advanced XEPs I think 'experimental' can become a home for > controversial[1] XEPs; Maybe even for OMEMO in its current form[2]. > I will very heavily resist us placing anything knowingly encumbered onto the Standards Track in any form. > After all that state contains a big fat warning saying: "Publication > as an XMPP Extension Protocol does not imply approval of this proposal > by the XMPP Standards Foundation". Just because we have seen that > warning so many times that we have learned to ignore it doesn’t mean > it's there. > > Note that what I’m suggesting here is has an order of operations: > Clean up experimental first and then, and only if successful, start > making it the 'everything goes' state[3]. > > I don't understand this - if we're making Experimental the wild west (and, Peter, I am speaking metaphorically here), then why "clean it up"? I might find myself in agreement, mind, I simply don't understand what you mean here. > cheers > Daniel > > > [1]: For a wide variety of controversial > [2]: In the case of OMEMO we could introduce a second warning > mentioning the issues with the copyright. > [3]: For a still reasonable definition of everything > _______________________________________________ > Standards mailing list > Info: https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/standards > Unsubscribe: standards-unsubscr...@xmpp.org > _______________________________________________ >
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