https://logs.xmpp.org/council/2020-10-21?p=h#2020-10-21-b57e703886bf4bfe
1) Roll Call Present: Zash, Dave, Jonas, Daniel, Georg 2) Agenda Bashing No. 3) Editor's Update * Accepted XEP-0352 (Client State Indication) as Draft * Accepted XEP-0411 (Bookmarks Conversion) as Draft 4a) MR !22 (XEP-0118: add composer, date, genre, language, lyricist, and performer tags; make rating optional) - https://gitlab.com/xsf/xeps/-/merge_requests/25 Zash notes that XEP-0118 is Draft and the namespace is non-versioned. Jonas wonders about adding the new details in a separate namespace under the same child. Dave feels that an entirely new User Tune 2 (Empire Records Strikes Back), assuming there's prior art now, thanks to popular music streaming services, which is worth exploring - Daniel probably agrees. Jonas doesn't think there is harm, from a practical perspective, in adding elements scoped into a different namespace - Zash doesn't think there's much harm in just accepting this, unless someone has a strict validator; notes that the last modification was the addition of the rating element (in Draft, without an additional namespace.) Jonas: +1 Zash: +1 Dave: -0 Georg: [on-list] Daniel: -0 Kev notes that strict schema validators are sometimes used to ensure content conforms, and so feels this falls far short of avoiding backwards-incompatible modifications if at all possible - Jonas agrees. 4b) Propose Martin Dosch as Editor Jonas: +1 Georg: +1 Daniel: +1 Zash: +1 Dave: +1 Dave doesn't think he's had much contact with them, but anyone willing to put in the work sounds like a good idea - Jonas notes this is 'mdosch' (the artist formerly known as !XSF_Martin). 5) Date of Next 2020-10-28 1600 UTC Jonas may not be able to chair. [Note: DST ends in Europe on the 25th, so the meeting is effectively one hour later for those outside of affected regions; the USA catches up the week after.] 6) AOB Jonas notes the Elections [1] - the deadline for applications is 2020-11-08 - please add your application and/or encourage others you think would be good in any of these roles. 7) Close Thanks everyone. Jonas reminds Dave that he wanted to start a thread on OOB/SIMS/etc in the context of the XEP-0363 CFE - Dave was fully intending to do that (and has [2].) Zash quotes from XEP-0001: "Any changes to a Draft XEP that could reasonably be construed as material must be provisionally published, announced and discussed on the Standards mailing list, and formally approved by the XMPP Council" - Dave is a lot more comfortable when changes are thoroughly discussed within the community. (See [3] for conveniently relevant discussion.) [1] https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Board_and_Council_Elections_2020 [2] https://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/standards/2020-October/037822.html [3] https://logs.xmpp.org/xsf/2020-09-12?p=h#2020-09-12-7b989cb42bd803af
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