Goffi. Good afternoon. On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 13:36:57 +0200 Goffi <[email protected]> wrote:
> Le vendredi 29 août 2025, 10:59:58 heure d’été d’Europe centrale > Schimon Jehudah a écrit : > > Good day. > > > > I realize that PEP is a form of PubSub for accounts. > > > > I do want to know whether it is feasible for an account to create a > > PEP node which other accounts can post items to it. > > > > Please advise. > > > > Kind regards, > > Schimon > > _______________________________________________ > > Standards mailing list -- [email protected] > > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > > > > Hi Schimon, > > By spec, there is only one publisher per node > (https://xmpp.org/extensions/ xep-0163.html#approach-publisher), so a > pure PEP implementation doesn't allow that. AFAIK, PEP was also done > to have a "simplified pubsub" at a time were most pubsub > implementation were incomplete, which may explain this. > > Note that its not a "MUST NOT", so it's mostly a recommendation to my > eyes. > Then, I suppose, this statement at XEP-0277 is incorrect, or should have additional text which explains that it is only feasible to the account owner to post to it. https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0277.html#comment_add > Note: A comments node SHOULD be located at a generic > publish-subscribe node that is not attached to a user's IM account, > but MAY be located at a personal eventing (PEP) node. I read it, yet when I have experimented in the past, and I realized that an account JID can not post to a PEP node of another account JID. I tested this with Slixfeed news service (i.e. bot). > However, some implementations (like Libervia Pubsub, the one I'm > working on) are more flexible and allow the same things that in a > XEP-0060 pubsub service. > > I think that it would be beneficial to allow PEP service to allow > this flexibility (for example, you may want to allow somebody to > casually post to your personal blog), but you should not assume that > it possible right now. > This is actually my use case. I think that such functionality must have a moderation mechanism., as you would not want people to populate accounts of others with contents for which one might be prosecuted (e.g. for uploading a chapter of The Bible). However, I did discuss about this concern over this mailing-list in the past (title: "Moderating PubSub"), and Mr. Tedd Sterr has offered this solution. 1. Create an interface to send comments; 2. Send a notification about comments; and 3. Use your account to moderate and post these comments. As XMPP comments are made of Atom Syndication Format (RFC 4287), the solution of Tedd is applicable with my needs, because the Atom Syndication Format has the element "atom:author" which can be utilized as an address or identifier to the people who desire to publish over your account PEP node. https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4287#section-4.2.1 If possible, I think, that it would be good to generalize such moderation system to all XMPP publishing clients. Schimon > Maybe some disco feature could be used to explicitly show that it's > supported to change access model/and or affiliations? > > Best, > Goffi _______________________________________________ Standards mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected]
