> On 20 Jan 2026, at 10:17, Daniel Gultsch <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 
> I'm going to make one last argument and then I think we will have exchanged 
> enough arguments for council to make a decision later today. 
> 
> This is an experiment. We both agree that we need more implementational 
> experience. For now we don't really know if roster size or crypto overhead 
> and crypto operations will be be the bottle neck.

I don’t think this is true. We do know that there are rosters in the wild that 
are large enough to realistically be limited by pubsub item/stanza size limits. 
I don’t like one-item-per-item at all, but I don’t think one-item-per-roster is 
viable.

/K

> 
> However if we don't know, the most sensible thing from my POV is to keep it 
> simple. Do the minimum viable thing. Take the existing roster, with its 
> existing features wrt groups and stick it into one encrypted item. Allow us 
> to reuse existing parsers. Make a drop in replacement for clear text rosters. 
> 
> Cheers
> Daniel
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