That particular wisp so broadcasting their activities is deploying "preseem" over tarana to manage their bufferbloat issues with great success... although it would be nice if the tarana cpe uplink radio had it more under control with a smaller fixed size buffer, at least, and less retries in the mac. The right place to manage uplink bufferbloat is at the uplink, not the central controller.
Everytime that wisp posts their tarana speedtest number, they show 300ms + buffering on the uplink side, which, while dramatically better than 5g or starlink is still 10x too much.... and I pester them about it. Sometimes they repost with the post-preseem number, sometimes not. (preseem uses fq_codel). The principal complaints about tarana are it is really, really expensive, it uses up a lot of spectrum, and they have a lot more hype than I would like. Because the barrier to entry is so high, many other alternatives may well be more cost-effective. I would certainly like to see, touch, and test a setup myself! I like NLOS (non-line of sight) technologies for incredibly difficult shots... But: My purpose in asking the list here was to ask if the analysis of cell size was correct and reasonable (it certainly looked so to me), and the economic argument that falls out of the resulting information density seems compelling for designing hybrid fiber and wireless networks of all sorts, not as an endorsement of tarana. On Sun, Sep 24, 2023 at 1:19 PM Luis A. Cornejo <[email protected]> wrote: > > Dave, > > Have you actually seen it in person? How is the bufferbloat situation? From > the videos I've seen from WISPs and stuff Tarana shares on twitter it seems > to be under control, but they seem very bandwidth oriented. A WISP (NextLink) > seems to be deploying them, but it seems that is not near where I am. I > inquired and they said I wasn't LOS to the tower. I responded back as to when > they will deploy Tarana radios in my area and I got crickets. > > -Luis > > -Luis > > On Sat, Sep 23, 2023 at 9:34 PM Dave Taht via Starlink > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Tarana, which is indeed, delivering one of the most amazing NLOS WISP >> experiences I have ever seen, >> just put out this white paper: >> >> https://www.taranawireless.com/a-comparison-of-next-generation-fwa-vs-leo-satellite/ >> >> Can anyone question these Starlink numbers for cell size, etc? >> >> -- >> Oct 30: https://netdevconf.info/0x17/news/the-maestro-and-the-music-bof.html >> Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos >> _______________________________________________ >> Starlink mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink -- Oct 30: https://netdevconf.info/0x17/news/the-maestro-and-the-music-bof.html Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos _______________________________________________ Starlink mailing list [email protected] https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink
